Is free will an illusion?

[Gregory]

"Free will is limited."
- Erasmus

I have not heard it better described, how can the will be otherwise free?

[aitm]

 and......down the rabbit hole we go....

[Sal1981]

Yes.

[Hydra009]

I've never met a man who didn't want to eat when very hungry.

[Baruch]

Free will  = can create something from nothing based on whim?  No.

Human beings can only rearrange what already exists.  Yes.

That they can freely do, if their mother lets them out of the basement ;-)

People don't want to admit to free will, when standing before a judge, for the crimes they commit.

Erasmus was a liberal Catholic from 550 years ago.  Good at Greek NT though.

His quote on free will is based on Pauline theology.

[SGOS]

and......down the rabbit hole we go....

And to quote one of your other responses from years ago:  "Not this shit again."

[SGOS]

Next lets do "Is it nature or nurture?"

[Baruch]

Next lets do "Is it nature or nurture?"

Both.  Only Western people aka idiots, think it is either/or.

[Unbeliever]

Next lets do "Is it nature or nurture?"

It's both.

[Unbeliever]

Is light a particle or a wave?



;-P

[Hijiri Byakuren]

Could be.

The universe at the micro level is random. Like truly random. All predictions are probabilistic at the particle level. It becomes more deterministic as you go through the scale life exists at, and chaotic at the macro level.

So free will could be an illusion and our lives could be entirely chaotic or deterministic. Or it could truly exist, as random as the smallest particles. More research is needed. ;)

[Baruch]

Is light a particle or a wave?



;-P

Which walnut shell is the dry pea under?  None, I ate the pea when you weren't looking!

[Baruch]

Could be.

The universe at the micro level is random. Like truly random. All predictions are probabilistic at the particle level. It becomes more deterministic as you go through the scale life exists at, and chaotic at the macro level.

So free will could be an illusion and our lives could be entirely chaotic or deterministic. Or it could truly exist, as random as the smallest particles. More research is needed. ;)

Reality already shows those aren't mutually exclusive.  It is the human brain that can't cope.  Designed to peal bananas.

[Unbeliever]

Reality already shows those aren't mutually exclusive.  It is the human brain that can't cope.  Designed to peal bananas.

You "peel" a banana, bells "peal."

[Jason Harvestdancer]

Define "free will".