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Started by Sal1981, January 28, 2020, 09:04:46 PM

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aitm

Quote from: Hydra009 on March 21, 2021, 08:39:34 PM
Right.  But they're IN Florida.  Perfect opportunity to trap 'em there.
Hey! WTF dude? I gotta deal with the uppity brats?
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Hydra009

Quote from: aitm on March 22, 2021, 06:11:16 PMHey! WTF dude? I gotta deal with the uppity brats?
Sacrifices must be made.

Hydra009

In other news, Russia may have drastically underreported its covid death toll - ~95k according to the official statistics but excess deaths has them at more like 450k.  That's almost as much as the official US death toll and Russia only has about 44% of the US's population.

To be fair, the US also has more excess deaths than official deaths - 565k excess deaths throughout the entire pandemic, but the official death toll of 556k accounts for almost all of that.

Other countries also have quite a lot of excess deaths (some rather odd gaps in that graph)

SGOS

Quote from: Hydra009 on March 22, 2021, 11:09:33 PM
To be fair, the US also has more excess deaths than official deaths - 565k excess deaths throughout the entire pandemic, but the official death toll of 556k accounts for almost all of that.
According to Baruch, the US was over reporting covid.  Another thing he got off the internet that said hospitals were collecting more money.  But FactCheck.org debunked that a year ago.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: SGOS on March 23, 2021, 09:12:53 AM
According to Baruch, the US was over reporting covid.  Another thing he got off the internet that said hospitals were collecting more money.  But FactCheck.org debunked that a year ago.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

According to Baruch just about everyone was a fascist, idiotic numbskull too blind to see the conspiring powers that be.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Cassia

One of my concerns about getting my shot is not getting shot like one guy did in Colorado almost did.

drunkenshoe

#3546
Quote from: Blackleaf on March 22, 2021, 12:51:59 PM
Texas is practically its own country. It's only the Southern part of Texas that's shit. The rest is fine. And if we could get rid of Abbot, we'll be much better. Florida is the place that, after a school shooting that made national news, decided not to even discuss gun control at all, instead choosing to discuss the "dangers of pornography." Florida has such a reputation for craziness, they turned it into a meme with Florida Man. lol

Yeah I get the general culture in that state. I'm trying to understand the differences between states, given reports and how people see it. I think it is interesting. Considering their sizes, population, and pop density, California and Texas look in worse shape than Florida. California is more than twice the size of Florida, has almost twice the population and far less pop. density. Texas is on the other hand, bigger than both, and also has far less pop density than both. But California has more mass shootings and Texas is just behind Florida. Flroida has more pop density, and it is much smaller than other two states. Apparently, California also has the most strict gun laws by the way. E: (Another thing. It's highly likely that the 4 years of Trump reign and the general climate it created had an effect on these crimes -and on reporting- in certain places.)

For the mass shooting defined as '4 or more pople killed', California has the worst record in the US which is 20, Florida 12 and then Texas 11.  (1982 and March 2021)

https://www.statista.com/statistics/811541/mass-shootings-in-the-us-by-state/

California had 186 mass shootings between 2008-2017, Florida had 125, Texas, 102. (2008-2017)

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/news/2019/11/20/477218/gun-violence-america-state-state-analysis/

California also had the highest number of  school shootings.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-colorado-shooting-states-factbox-idUSKCN1SE2EX

The school shootings overall since 1970 are: California, 158; Texas, 133; Florida, 90.

California's population is nearly 40 million. It's 163 K sq mi and population density is  253.9 residents per square mile.

https://cdn.americanprogress.org/content/uploads/2019/11/18061930/CaliforniaGunViolence-Factsheet.pdf

QuoteThe burden of gun violence in California falls disproportionately on
communities of color
• Approximately 32 percent of the state’s gun homicide victims are Black; however,
only 6 percent of the state’s population is Black.
• While Hispanics make up close to 38 percent of the state’s population, they account
for approximately 47 percent of gun homicide victims in the state.

Florida is 22 million, 65,755 sq mi, and population density is 397.2 residents per square mile

https://cdn.americanprogress.org/content/uploads/2019/11/18070713/FloridaGunViolence-Factsheet.pdf

QuoteThe burden of gun violence in Florida falls disproportionately on communities of color
• Approximately 56 percent of the state’s gun homicide victims are Black; however,
only 16 percent of the state’s population is Black.

Texas, 30 million. 268,580 sq mi. Population density is 109.9 residents per square mile.

QuoteThe burden of gun violence in Texas falls disproportionately on
communities of color
• Approximately 36 percent of the state’s gun homicide victims are Black; however,
only 12 percent of the state’s population is Black.


"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Cassia


Mermaid

WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID!??!??
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

GSOgymrat


Hydra009

#3550
Quote from: Mermaid on April 01, 2021, 05:55:20 PM
WHY ARE PEOPLE SO FUCKING STUPID!??!??
In Arkansas, they're planning a mask burning to coincide with the lifting of mask restrictions.  Covid isn't over by a long shot and reckless behavior only fuels its spread and bodycount.

One of their quotables: 

"For us personally the mandate being lifted is the government allowing citizens to make their own decisions. Whether we are self destructive, make mistakes, or just want to quietly live by our own mantra the government should not be involved in our personal decision making.  It should be the right of each individual to make their own positive or negative decisions."

Sounds nice and libertarian, doesn't it?  Who could possibly be against the "right" of people to make their own decisions to harbor the plague or not?!

Here's a similar argument:  For us personally the Stop Light mandate being lifted is the government allowing citizens to make their own decisions. Whether we are self destructive, make mistakes, or just want to drive by our own mantra the government should not be involved in our personal decision making.  It should be the right of each individual to make their own positive or negative decisions on the road.

Another galaxy-brain quote:  "But if someone does not want to wear a mask, they should have the right to make that choice as well and shop at businesses that equally share their values."

That's all well and good IF everyone consents.  How many people do you bump into every day?  Can an anti-masker claim that everyone they bump into (and everyone those people bump into) consented to that risk?  You could make an identical argument for indoor smoking and that hasn't been allowed for years for obvious reasons.

SGOS

When the virus showed up in the US, they closed business that presented high risk.  Not all.  It was a partial shutdown, but of course some businesses are necessary.  That's fine.

So the virus quickly started to spread, and got 10 times worse, but when there was a slight pause or drop in new infections, governors rushed to lift restrictions like the threat was over, and then the virus got 10 times worse starting from a new benchmark that was already 10 times worse.

So then they closed things down again partially, (that should do it now that things are 100 times worse), and then there was a slight pause or drop in new infections, and the restrictions would be lifted again, so that the virus could start from the latest benchmark, and geometrically progress starting at another new bench mark etc, etc, until there are now more than a half million dead.  And we are no where near over.

I want to laugh.  It's idiotic.  It wouldn't be as funny, if governors just said, "Yeah the pandemic is really bad, but we aren't shutting anything down, because it's bad for business.  Too bad so many have to die, but it's for the good of the country."  That makes it just appear greedy, but not like the country is run by a bunch of morons.  Although we could probably debate that last point too.

Blackleaf

Schrodinger's Pandemic: Before a Conservative opens their mouth, the pandemic exists simultaneously in two states.

1. The virus is a hoax made up by the Democrats to control us. If it exists at all, it's not a big deal. Big pharma, big tech, blah, blah, Socialism.

2. The virus is serious business. Trump's quick and decisive response has saved thousands of lives, and those dirty Mexicans crossing the border are spreading Covid.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Hydra009

I got my first shot today!  What a relief!

My immune system is going ham on this covid-like training dummy!


Cassia

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 05, 2021, 07:04:08 PM
I got my first shot today!  What a relief!

My immune system is going ham on this covid-like training dummy!


Good for you! We have about 10 days till shot 2 and then two weeks after that we should have decent immunity. I read the first jab alone gives some immunity after about 3 weeks. Of course plenty of people are running around way before that and getting sick.