Previously 'The big ol' 2020 debate', turned Baruch's personal waste bin.

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Baruch

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 11:50:20 PM
It is against federal law for there to be any direct communication between a PAC and a candidate.

There are infinite means of indirect communication.  Just as there are infinite means of money laundering.
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trdsf

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 05, 2020, 12:05:15 AM
Okay, here's the trail I followed.  I started by looking up the Team Trump Facebook page.

On the page I found "Confirmed Page Owner: DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC." and webpage www.donaldjtrump.com.

FEC data for "DONALD J. TRUMP FOR PRESIDENT, INC." lists it as a PAC.  The only listed officer is TIMOTHY JOST, treasurer.  Former treasurer BRADLEY CRATE.

Looking up those individuals I find this.

Timothy Jost is a professor at Robert L. Willett Family Professor of Law, Washington and Lee University School of Law, and a member of the Federalist Society.  He was actually influential in arguing against the ACA (Obamacare).  He did work at a company called "Red Curve Solutions" founded by Bradley Crate.  He also worked directly for Romney.  Bradley Crate was a CFO for Romney.

This is in the public records.  It is also common knowledge that Romney is the leader of the last vestige of anti-Trump Republicans.
Obviously, you didn't take the obvious step of running a whois on donaldjtrump.com, which has been a registered domain name since 1997 -- LONG before the political ambitions of the Oval Orifice were clear -- or are you suggesting that Jost bought and maintained the domain 23 years ago just in case Lord Dampnut decided to go into politics?

The identified owner of donaldjtrump.com is, unsurprisingly, the Trump organization.  To even suggest that they have no connection to this is naïve in the extreme.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Jason Harvestdancer

It is true that the Facebook page did link to that website.  However that is not the Facebook page of the PAC.  What it looks like is that the individuals who created the PAC that in turn created the page linked to that site.

There is no connection between those individuals and that site other than that one link.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Baruch

#753
Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 05, 2020, 08:55:44 AM
It is true that the Facebook page did link to that website.  However that is not the Facebook page of the PAC.  What it looks like is that the individuals who created the PAC that in turn created the page linked to that site.

There is no connection between those individuals and that site other than that one link.

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy to murder all Gays etc.  You have to join the dots, like the insanity in "A Beautiful Mind". Subliminal conspiracy.

"Michigan Passes Controversial Bill To Microchip Humans Voluntarily "To Protect Their Privacy"" ... like already tried in Florida.  It is for your benefit .. suuure.
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trdsf

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 05, 2020, 08:55:44 AM
It is true that the Facebook page did link to that website.  However that is not the Facebook page of the PAC.  What it looks like is that the individuals who created the PAC that in turn created the page linked to that site.

There is no connection between those individuals and that site other than that one link.
I repeat, naïve.  We already know what a rampaging narcissist the Oval Orifice is.  The idea that anyone could operate "Donald J Trump for President, Inc" without his approval, explicit or tacit, is not beleivable.

And so what that Jost used to work for Romney?  Where does it say he still does, and even if he did, what difference does that make?

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 04, 2020, 11:50:20 PM
It is against federal law for there to be any direct communication between a PAC and a candidate.
Surely you don't think Trump gives a flying shit about election law.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Hydra009

Two possibilities:

1) a masterful false flag operation that apparently even fooled the actual Trump reelection team, deduced solely through some extremely dodgy logic by some guy on the internet

2) The usual dog-whistling turned into actual whistling; Trump and co made an oopsie and some guy on the internet doesn't want to admit it for whatever reason (there's supposedly no ideological connection, so I don't understand what the problem is)

Which one is more likely?

Baruch

#756
If Trump was Satan, and I was a demon, I know who I would be voting for ;-)  How strange a way for atheists to articulate their politics ;-(

Everyone, per MK Ultra, has been programmed by the CIA to be a hidden asset, to be triggered into assassinating someone, if the codeword Telefon is said, or is that Rosebud?

For years I voted for my favorite criminal, but I am old and tired, I am done.
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Jason Harvestdancer

Are Anti-Trump Republicans running a PAC to sabotage Trump while looking like they are supporting him a false flag?  If it was masterful, it would not be so easily found.
White privilege is being a lifelong racist, then being sent to the White House twice because your running mate is a minority.<br /><br />No Biden, no KKK, no Fascist USA!

Baruch

Quote from: Jason Harvestdancer on July 05, 2020, 04:59:28 PM
Are Anti-Trump Republicans running a PAC to sabotage Trump while looking like they are supporting him a false flag?  If it was masterful, it would not be so easily found.

Once you go down the rabbit hole, you end up looking like Alice in drag ;-)

The government is not of one mind.  It is as mindless as any other collective.  Every R-asshole and D-asshole think they would make a better President.  I blame LSD.  Most people can't tie their own shoelaces.
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Baruch

#759
"Supreme Court Rules States Can Stop "Faithless" Presidential Electors" ... the attempt in 2016 to suborn the Electors won't happen again ;-)

"Critics predict 'book burnings' after Washington Post takes aim at 'problematic books'" ... used to be that Evangelical Christians were the Nazis ... look who the Nazis are now, comrades ;-)
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Baruch

"Deutsche Bank "Inexcusably Failed" To Monitor Jeffery Epstein's Accounts, Fined $150 Million “while on parole”" ... this was while Epstein was on parole.

"Foreign Students On Visas Must Leave USA If Schools Go Online-Only: ICE" .. hmm

"In Addition To Everything Else, Now "Bunny Ebola" Is Spreading Rapidly Across The US" ... see what you get putting lipstick on a pig?  Half the pigs in China die from pig-ebola last year, now it is rabbits.

""Racist" College Researcher Ousted After Sharing Study Showing No Racial Bias In Police Shootings" ... at Michigan State.  There are only a few hundred police shootings per year.  Usually one needs a sample of 10,000 to get good statistical analysis.  And of course none of these shootings were controlled experiments, but have arbitrary individual context.  I suspect the study too, but for incompetence.
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Baruch

#761
"California Faculty Demands "Free Tuition For All Black, Native, & Indigenous Students"" ... used to be that any in-state college student got free tuition in California, shame that went up in reefer smoke

"153 "Left-Leaning" Economists Say US Should Continue To Hand Out Free Money Indefinitely" ... why economics isn't even a science

"BLM Teacher Says 2+2 Only Equals 4 Because Of "Western Imperialism"" ... why socialism fails.  Innumeracy.

"Armed St. Louis homeowner says protesters threatened to kill her, move into her home" ... NDLM .. No Dem Lives Matter!

"ILHAN OMAR BASICALLY SAYS ABOLISH OUR POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC SYSTEM" ... yes it isn't your old time Sharia law.

"LEFTIST "WAR GAMES" PREDICT TRUMP WILL CHEAT THEN CIVIL WAR" ... projection again.  I am looking forward to the deaths of millions of morons.  It is the only way to raise the average IQ of the planet.
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Baruch

"FAR LEFT 'BREATHE ACT' WOULD GRANT NON CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO VOTE" ... sure, make all the illegals able to vote, block all Republicans from voting.
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Baruch

#763
"Orwell Cancelled? Journalist Says "Vile" Author Aided Nazis" ... trying to hide the fact that the Liberals are using "1984" as a blueprint.

"Fearing Cancelation, Public Figures Withdraw Support For Open Letter Decrying Cancel Culture" ... Coward Culture ;-(

"NYC Mayor De Blasio Helps Paint 'Black Lives Matter' Outside Trump Tower" ... silly double down.  His wife and daughter are BLM.  I know how wife and daughter can get ;-))

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GSOgymrat

Quote from: Baruch on July 08, 2020, 10:20:20 PM
"FAR LEFT 'BREATHE ACT' WOULD GRANT NON CITIZENS THE RIGHT TO VOTE" ... sure, make all the illegals able to vote, block all Republicans from voting.

Yesterday my younger brother and I had a 2.5 hour conversation about protests, racism and the culture wars and I admit it was the blind leading the blind. He kept asking what LEGAL changes the protesters were calling for so I've sent him a copy of the BREATHE Act. Considering the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act failed I don't see the BREATHE Act going anywhere.