Previously 'The big ol' 2020 debate', turned Baruch's personal waste bin.

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Hydra009

Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 04, 2020, 07:10:55 PM
According to Andrew Yang, Bloomberg has a massive digital operations center that dwarfs the DNC resources.
Interesting.  Wasn't Bloomberg the one who said that Sanders would be mathematically impossible to beat unless people started dropping out and consolidating their votes?  Hmmm...

Baruch

"DNC Scrambles To Change Debate Threshold After Gabbard Qualifies" ... they are excluding the only good Dem candidate!  The Dem party exists only to stroke Hillary's bruised ego and provide more nymphs for Bill.
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GSOgymrat

Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2020, 09:47:24 AM
"DNC Scrambles To Change Debate Threshold After Gabbard Qualifies" ... they are excluding the only good Dem candidate!  The Dem party exists only to stroke Hillary's bruised ego and provide more nymphs for Bill.

I'm sure the DNC would rather not have Tulsi Gabbard asking uncomfortable questions and jeopardizing the Bernie or Biden narrative.

https://youtu.be/f7-9qF0sMyk

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on March 05, 2020, 08:08:33 AM
Interesting.  Wasn't Bloomberg the one who said that Sanders would be mathematically impossible to beat unless people started dropping out and consolidating their votes?  Hmmm...

Some analysts say, Warren helped lower Sander's count on Tuesday, helping Biden.  But to what effect, if as per rumor, she will leave the race today?  I say, chip all the Dems, and then signal to these cyborgs, who to vote for like the Trade Federation robots (who had a weakness exploited by Jar Jar).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdS2kCUGvfo

But Darth Vader has an even greater weakness ... he sunk all his money into Jar Jar Binks action figures, before Phantom Menace was released to the theaters!!
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Baruch

"VOTER FRAUD FEAR AS CONSERVATIVE GROUP FINDS COUNTIES WITH MORE VOTERS THAN ACTUAL PEOPLE" ... similar to evidence from 2018.  Florida, Michigan and Colorado find counties with more voters than population.

I don't often vote, but when I am dead, I always vote Democrat ;-)
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Hydra009

Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 05, 2020, 10:17:59 AM
I'm sure the DNC would rather not have Tulsi Gabbard asking uncomfortable questions and jeopardizing the Bernie or Biden narrative.
I legitimately forgot she was still in the race.

Hydra009

#261
Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2020, 01:04:42 PM
Some analysts say, Warren helped lower Sander's count on Tuesday, helping Biden.
It was undoubtedly a factor.  Though with Bloomberg dropping out as well, a lot of his voters will switch to Biden, so it's pretty much a wash.

Bernie's going to have to claw his way back to the lead without much outside assistance, unlike Biden.

GSOgymrat

#262
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 05, 2020, 04:22:00 PM
Bernie's going to have to claw his way back to the lead without much outside assistance, unlike Biden.

Reading online comments from Bernie supporters following Super Tuesday, it appears they have a bit of a conundrum. They want Bernie to stay true to his progressive message and start a "revolution" but now they realize they don't have enough progressive voters, particularly young voters, to win the Democratic nomination. They need more moderates and centrists, many of whom want "unity", specifically Trump gone and more bipartisan cooperation. They want to literally go back to pre-2016 politics with Biden. So should Bernie adjust his message to appeal to moderates or, as some supporters have insisted, double-down and run a negative campaign against Biden? I don't know what Bernie should do at this point.

Hydra009

#263
Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 05, 2020, 05:02:48 PMThey need more moderates and centrists, many of whom want "unity", specifically Trump gone and more bipartisan cooperation.They want to literally go back to pre-2016 politics with Biden. So should Bernie adjust his message to appeal to moderates or, as some supporters have insisted, double-down and run a negative campaign against Biden? I don't know what Bernie should do at this point.
Secular Talk explained it better than I can, but I'll take a crack at it.

First, Sanders has a much broader appeal than just progressives.  If it were just progressives, he probably wouldn't carry a single state.  The platform he's fighting for has broad appeal: "young" voters (under 45), very liberal, liberal-leaning independents, even a decent inroads into conservative-leaning Republicans.  His populist message could peel a lot of votes from Trump.  And in Nevada, he had a plurality of conservative and moderate Democrats.

That said, young voters didn't vote as much as they should have and Biden now has a lot of support from old and/or conservative Democrats.

Second, he has to absolutely crush  the next debate.  No doubt about that.  But if you guys recall, Biden has historically had some trouble in debates, so it's possible.

Third, Sanders supporters have to work extra hard in mobilizing voters and attracting the voters of the dropped out candidates.

Should Sanders go super negative?  I dunno, but I hope not.  I think that getting vicious would just fracture the already pretty cracked Democratic Party and lead to a weak November showing, with the embittered losing faction staying home on election day.

That said, this is a warmup for the general election and you better believe that Trump isn't going to hold any punches.  You can't even imagine how low he's going to go.  Biden's recent fogginess is a delight for Trump.

Baruch

#264
Quote from: GSOgymrat on March 05, 2020, 05:02:48 PM
Reading online comments from Bernie supporters following Super Tuesday, it appears they have a bit of a conundrum. They want Bernie to stay true to his progressive message and start a "revolution" but now they realize they don't have enough progressive voters, particularly young voters, to win the Democratic nomination. They need more moderates and centrists, many of whom want "unity", specifically Trump gone and more bipartisan cooperation. They want to literally go back to pre-2016 politics with Biden. So should Bernie adjust his message to appeal to moderates or, as some supporters have insisted, double-down and run a negative campaign against Biden? I don't know what Bernie should do at this point.

Any big tent political party has to please so many sociopaths, that it is hard without group hallucination, to keep them in the same tent.

I don't blame the voters, i blame the DNC sex slaves of the Klinton Klan.  I refuse to believe that 1/3 of adult America can't do better than Biden or Sanders.
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Hydra009

Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2020, 07:53:52 PMI refuse to believe that 1/3 of adult America can't do better than Biden or Sanders.
Well, I mean, we could dig up FDR and do some black magic...

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on March 05, 2020, 08:07:50 PM
Well, I mean, we could dig up FDR and do some black magic...

He was controversial and widely hated.  Pearl Harbor saved his reputation (even though he arranged for it to happen).  FDR didn't need black magic, he had Churchill.
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Baruch

#267
Socialist law enforcement being tried in San Francisco now.  A new law was passed decriminalizing theft of less than $950.  The usual suspects invaded a Walgreens there and stripped the makeup section ;-)  Local official responsible for this madness, is a child of 60s terrorists.

https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/shoplifters-walking-into-stores-filling-bags-walking-out-of-stores-in-san-francisco-criminal-justice-reform/

With President Sanders, this is what "reparations" look like.  And why it is necessary to disarm people.  Because it isn't nice to shoot robbers who are by definition innocent, while society is always guilty ;-(

I am not wealthy and try not to look wealthy.  I would rather the barbarian hordes concentrate on my neighbor's home.  Of course it won't matter if per pandemic, we are all dead in the US in less than 2 months from now.
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Hydra009

Quote from: Baruch on March 05, 2020, 08:28:06 PM
He was controversial and widely hated.
So were/are Rock music and D&D.

I'm sorry but being hated by dumbasses isn't a black mark, it's a badge of pride.

Baruch

#269
Quote from: Hydra009 on March 05, 2020, 08:37:41 PM
So were/are Rock music and D&D.

I'm sorry but being hated by dumbasses isn't a black mark, it's a badge of pride.

Watch out who you label, the label maker is coming for you ;-)

A decade of bad politics, bad drugs, bad sex and bad music.  I know some cool people, I don't judge their choices.  But I do separate the goats from the sheep as a reference to my own character.

No hate, not even pity, I just won't praise crap.

Fire breathing political activists should practice practice practice ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRTKXMy4WVc
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