A new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

Started by od19g6, December 31, 2019, 05:13:18 PM

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od19g6

Quote from: Mike Cl on January 07, 2020, 06:15:25 PM
Look up some of the huge civilizations ants have and are, creating.
You really can't say in all honesty ci, that a colony of ants is "just like" a human city. And a "civilization" of ants are "exactly" like the technology advanced societal civilization that human beings can create.

od19g6

Quote from: Baruch on January 08, 2020, 03:31:55 PM
Ancient Egyptians would disagree ;-)

"let the human being know what they truly are, a spiritual beings" ... correct, but atheists have no soul.  Materialists don't believe in anything they can't see ... except for political ideology.
Of course we all know that every human being has the right to believe what they want to believe, or don't want to believe.

Why would the egyptians disagree?

Baruch

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:49:02 PM
Of course we all know that every human being has the right to believe what they want to believe.

Why would the egyptians disagree?

Animism wasn't alien to them.  Most of their gods had animal traits, not elementals like fire god, water god ... like the Greeks.  The Egyptians worshipped cats and jackals.  A definitely superior culture.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
You really can't say in all honesty ci, that a colony of ants is "just like" a human city. And a "civilization" of ants are "exactly" like the technology advanced societal civilization that human beings can create.

E O Wilson (scientist) showed that insecticoid feminism is superior ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

Quote from: Baruch on January 08, 2020, 03:50:49 PM
Animism wasn't alien to them.  Most of their gods had animal traits, not elementals like fire god, water god ... like the Greeks.  The Egyptians worshipped cats and jackals.  A definitely superior culture.

What's a jackal? Is it like a hyena?
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

trdsf

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
Yes, physical but not spiritually.
Unsupported assertion. You need to prove a spiritual side exists before you can claim this.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Sal1981

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:30:23 PM
Evidence of what?
That these "manifestations" or whatever are more than just empty words. Where's your god?

od19g6

Quote from: trdsf on January 08, 2020, 05:01:01 PM
Unsupported assertion. You need to prove a spiritual side exists before you can claim this.
Prove like what physically?
You will never have "physical proof" of the divine reality.
We will only know the names and attributes and they are manifested in the physical world.

Sal1981

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 07:30:40 PM
Prove like what physically?
Anything that shows that god exists.

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 07:30:40 PM
You will never have "physical proof" of the divine reality.
Then how is it possible to distinguish this from not existing, if there's no physical proof of it?

Even political ideologies have some grounding in reality. Yours is merely fantasy.

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 07:30:40 PM
We will only know the names and attributes and they are manifested in the physical world.
How is this different from knowing the names and attributes of Spiderman?

There's equal amount of evidence of what you're proposing and Spiderman.

od19g6

Quote from: Sal1981 on January 08, 2020, 05:13:13 PM
That these "manifestations" or whatever are more than just empty words. Where's your god?
The manifestation that happens is the thing that brings these names and attributes to actual life in the physical world.

Because God is beyond the physical reality He's beyond time and place.
So like I said, the mystical thing is I we want to know any thing about what this thing that is called God, the first thing is to know the human being.

Unbeliever

God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Mike Cl

Quote from: Unbeliever on January 08, 2020, 03:52:08 PM
What's a jackal? Is it like a hyena?
It's like a big fox and lives in Asia and Africa.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Mike Cl

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:41:15 PM
You really can't say in all honesty ci, that a colony of ants is "just like" a human city. And a "civilization" of ants are "exactly" like the technology advanced societal civilization that human beings can create.
In all honesty I did not say it was 'just like' a human city.  Of course not, they are ants.  But the huge underground areas and tunnels are highly organized, and every ant has a job.  It is an ant civilization and they are very successful. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Mike Cl

Quote from: od19g6 on January 08, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
Yes, physical but not spiritually.
Spirituality is more fiction.  Like ghosts and spirits and the like, they are fictional.  And you do not have a soul and you will not go to heaven.  Your whole world/universe seems to be one fiction piled on top of another.  But then, it so much simpler and easier to just make stuff up as you go along.  That does cut down on thinking.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

od19g6

Quote from: Mike Cl on January 08, 2020, 09:32:20 PMOf course not, they are ants.
Ci. That's the grand point I was trying to make. Animals will never be as high as the human being.

The human being displays all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level.

Out of the tons of species, this one species has practically transformed the whole globe. We have been singled out.

We are much more than just mere animals. We are spiritual beings that can accomplish much more than what the mere animal can.