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Discovery
« on: August 25, 2019, 11:08:32 AM »
The old generations of the World discovered the earth.
And the posterity will discover the space.
We are just discovering the Internet :D

The human organism as its present form cannot spread to the space. It takes very very long time but human lifetime is limited.

The evolution has preferred the element carbon. But the artificial evolution prefers silicon and steel.

The only post-human form that can travel into long distances in space, must be free from its biological barriers.

I can think of a post-human whom its brain transferred into a chip, and as its brain's neo-cortex extends to a Cloud; He can discover the space.

I think there are post-humans but they are not open to the puclic of course. These post-humans whose intelligence is beyond our imagination, have already invent new Technologies. I think it must be so.



Re: Discovery
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2019, 12:09:22 PM »
You think the only way to get to the stars is to live out the trip?
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Re: Discovery
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2019, 12:46:40 PM »
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You think the only way to get to the stars is to live out the trip?


I do not know any tech. to exceed the light speed, so it takes long time to reach the stars in long distances.
Human lifetime is not enough to do this trip.

Re: Discovery
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2019, 12:52:04 PM »
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I do not know any tech. to exceed the light speed, so it takes long time to reach the stars in long distances.
Human lifetime is not enough to do this trip.
You are right.  But generations can do it.  Just read some of Heinlein's books.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Discovery
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2019, 01:06:04 PM »
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You are right.  But generations can do it.  Just read some of Heinlein's books.

Your genes will be corporate owned, to go on such a journey.  My Y chromosome has been on a 10,000 year journey already.

If I were an alien on the receiving end, I would treat your master species genes as germ warfare.  So the goal is human panspermia, where we infect the galaxy?
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Re: Discovery
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2019, 01:16:03 PM »
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Your genes will be corporate owned, to go on such a journey.  My Y chromosome has been on a 10,000 year journey already.

If I were an alien on the receiving end, I would treat your master species genes as germ warfare.  So the goal is human panspermia, where we infect the galaxy?
All I can say is 'Why?'
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Discovery
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2019, 01:40:27 PM »
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All I can say is 'Why?'

All genes are equal.  Bubonic plague is an oppressed gene pool.  Not good identity politics (sarc).

If a Repubs becomes a millionaire, then all Repubs are millionaires?  If my team wins a game, then it is as if I was on the field?

So in what way, is sending your Y-chromosome to Alpha Centauri is a win for you?

This is why Voyager etc were carefully scrubbed for germs.  Bad enough we showed an etching of a naked man and woman.  No wonder Vygr wanted to exterminate the porn supporters.
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Re: Discovery
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2019, 02:39:03 PM »
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All genes are equal.  Bubonic plague is an oppressed gene pool.  Not good identity politics (sarc).

If a Repubs becomes a millionaire, then all Repubs are millionaires?  If my team wins a game, then it is as if I was on the field?

So in what way, is sending your Y-chromosome to Alpha Centauri is a win for you?

This is why Voyager etc were carefully scrubbed for germs.  Bad enough we showed an etching of a naked man and woman.  No wonder Vygr wanted to exterminate the porn supporters.
Ramble on Ramble Man.  You shoot from the hips--well, not hips, but from the colon.  You simply let shit fly no matter what it is.  It's like you are a monkey randomly picking words from a dictionary and then flinging them out to the world. 

Did I ever say sending long distance ships out into space would do me any good?  I simply implied it was possible, at least in a Heinlein sci-fi way.  It seems do-able. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Baruch

Re: Discovery
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2019, 03:10:50 PM »
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Ramble on Ramble Man.  You shoot from the hips--well, not hips, but from the colon.  You simply let shit fly no matter what it is.  It's like you are a monkey randomly picking words from a dictionary and then flinging them out to the world. 

Did I ever say sending long distance ships out into space would do me any good?  I simply implied it was possible, at least in a Heinlein sci-fi way.  It seems do-able.

OK, before that, it was said, how about just communicating.  That I can see as worthwhile and doable.
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Re: Discovery
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2019, 06:00:19 PM »
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OK, before that, it was said, how about just communicating.  That I can see as worthwhile and doable.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

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Re: Discovery
« Reply #10 on: August 25, 2019, 06:22:32 PM »
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The human organism as its present form cannot spread to the space. It takes very very long time but human lifetime is limited.

The evolution has preferred the element carbon. But the artificial evolution prefers silicon and steel.

The only post-human form that can travel into long distances in space, must be free from its biological barriers.
*agrees in Adeptus Mechanicus*

Offline trdsf

Re: Discovery
« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2019, 06:43:26 PM »
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You are right.  But generations can do it.  Just read some of Heinlein's books.
You know, given the opportunity to download myself (or my self) to silicon, I think I would.  It's all well and good for future generations to see other stars and other planets, but dammit, I want to see them for myself.
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Re: Discovery
« Reply #12 on: August 26, 2019, 08:15:38 PM »
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You know, given the opportunity to download myself (or my self) to silicon, I think I would.  It's all well and good for future generations to see other stars and other planets, but dammit, I want to see them for myself.
At this point in my life--yeah, I'd join you!
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

Offline Cavebear

Re: Discovery
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 12:05:45 AM »
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Your genes will be corporate owned, to go on such a journey.  My Y chromosome has been on a 10,000 year journey already.

If I were an alien on the receiving end, I would treat your master species genes as germ warfare.  So the goal is human panspermia, where we infect the galaxy?

Only a 10,000 year journey?  Wikipedia offers sources saying it was about 166 million years ago.  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Offline Baruch

Re: Discovery
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 02:10:55 AM »
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You know, given the opportunity to download myself (or my self) to silicon, I think I would.  It's all well and good for future generations to see other stars and other planets, but dammit, I want to see them for myself.

i look forward to you doing that to yourself ;-(  Just an atheist form of immortality.
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