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Started by Baruch, August 03, 2019, 10:29:40 PM

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drunkenshoe

I was going to ask the same question. Which one is the far left mass murderer?

El Paso psycho sounds clear. Are we talking about Dayton perpetrators?

"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Cavebear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on August 05, 2019, 03:36:27 PM
Where and how are you going to get a sword wound? I was thinking about a knife. Most swords are not even sharp they are just heavy. Well, apart from the katanas that is.

I bought a few replica weapons decades ago (it was a random catalog, but that's why they mail them) and sharpened the edges of the 2 gladius swords on my grinding wheel.  Those are sufficiently close to real to be functional and are essentially machetes with dual cutting edges and a point.  The Epee isn't exactly Damascus steel, but the point is the point.  That is for stabbing between shields (I think). The swords you see in movies were for specialists.  Big huge weightlifter guys.  And 30 minutes and they were done!  But most swords through history worked by stabbing or slicing and they weren't really heavy. You had to wield them all day, after all!
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drunkenshoe

Quote from: Cavebear on August 05, 2019, 04:26:04 PM
I bought a few replica weapons decades ago (it was a random catalog, but that's why they mail them) and sharpened the edges of the 2 gladius swords on my grinding wheel.  Those are sufficiently close to real to be functional and are essentially machetes with dual cutting edges and a point.  The Epee isn't exactly Damascus steel, but the point is the point.  That is for stabbing between shields (I think). The swords you see in movies were for specialists.  Big huge weightlifter guys.  And 30 minutes and they were done!  But most swords through history worked by stabbing or slicing and they weren't really heavy. You had to wield them all day, after all!

I had a rich friend who is fond of heavy medieval swords. He used to order from Soctland. This is long time ago. I tried to lift a two handed, loool. I managed. May be they are commercial ones, I have no idea. But even the smaller ones they call 'bastard swords' ? was very heavy. They look like they are made to crush, not cut anything. But then I have the physical power of 5 cats. It's freaking steel you know. It's normal that they are that heavy. 

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Munch

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Cavebear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on August 05, 2019, 04:25:00 PM
I was going to ask the same question. Which one is the far left mass murderer?

El Paso psycho sounds clear. Are we talking about Dayton perpetrators?

I do gather from reports that the El Paso shooter posted anti-immigrant writings.  That would be a far-right thing.  The Dayton shooter "seems" to be an angry teen student and the motive is not yet known.  THat's from The New York Times an hour ago.  The most recent I could find...

Be calm, be still, wait for more information...
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Munch

See Obama getting in on some of that sweet, sweet politicising. If it really matters to him, maybe he should have tried harder to treat the condition when he could, it's not like he didn't have time to do so, two terms in office.

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Cavebear

Quote from: Munch on August 05, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
See Obama getting in on some of that sweet, sweet politicising. If it really matters to him, maybe he should have tried harder to treat the condition when he could, it's not like he didn't have time to do so, two terms in office.

Moscow Mitch stopped everything Obama tried, as the Republicans have at every Democratic President since Carter.  You can't (justifiably) blame a President when the Senate refusing ON POLITICAL PRINCIPLE to refuse to act on anything the Democrats try to do.  It has been going on for decades.  It is time it stopped.
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drunkenshoe

Ah it says 'leftist' in his twitter profile. He is a dem. He wrote 'fuck Mccain' and happily vote for a dem senator. 'Please vote blue'. And he is a 'leftist' mass murderer? He loves guns. May be he has journals tucked away somewhere. Manifestos? Possible. Don't hold your breath though.

Kid also have #HailSatan, #selfie4satan @SatanTweeting in his profile, are we going to discuss if he is a satanist too? :p Apparently, he is an atheist celebrating christmas in mass...for music? How about an 'are atheists actually satanists in disguise with a front?' discussion, I can recommend a thread. Rubes will come up with some thing like that any way. Let's beat them to it. :p

Anyway, yeah he is disturbed, no surprises there. But what was he 'fighting' against by killing people as a leftist mass murderer? One of the victims is his sister. Victims are white, black...etc. What is the ideologic motivation in these killings?

You know what I just wondered, does he have any other natural relationships with any other victims? Does this man know these people?   

"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

drunkenshoe

Quote from: Munch on August 05, 2019, 05:01:11 PM
See Obama getting in on some of that sweet, sweet politicising. If it really matters to him, maybe he should have tried harder to treat the condition when he could, it's not like he didn't have time to do so, two terms in office.

What are you talking about?
"science is not about building a body of known 'facts'. ıt is a method for asking awkward questions and subjecting them to a reality-check, thus avoiding the human tendency to believe whatever makes us feel good." - tp

Sal1981

Say what you want about Paul Joseph Watson, but he's point on in this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FISEiLG52Y



In a climate that normalizes violence, you're bound to get exactly that.

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Cavebear

Quote from: drunkenshoe on August 05, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
Ah it says 'leftist' in his twitter profile. He is a dem. He wrote 'fuck Mccain' and happily vote for a dem senator. 'Please vote blue'. And he is a 'leftist' mass murderer? He loves guns. May be he has journals tucked away somewhere. Manifestos? Possible. Don't hold your breath though.

Kid also have #HailSatan, #selfie4satan @SatanTweeting in his profile, are we going to discuss if he is a satanist too? :p Apparently, he is an atheist celebrating christmas in mass...for music? How about an 'are atheists actually satanists in disguise with a front?' discussion, I can recommend a thread. Rubes will come up with some thing like that any way. Let's beat them to it. :p

Anyway, yeah he is disturbed, no surprises there. But what was he 'fighting' against by killing people as a leftist mass murderer? One of the victims is his sister. Victims are white, black...etc. What is the ideologic motivation in these killings?

You know what I just wondered, does he have any other natural relationships with any other victims? Does this man know these people?   

Well, that is something, at least.  But please do not associate atheism with Satanism.  That's just plain wrong.  Satanism (to the extent it actually exists outside the minds of messed up teenage boys) is technically just another theism.  We have enough confusion as it is...
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Munch

Quote from: Sal1981 on August 05, 2019, 05:15:12 PM
Say what you want about Paul Joseph Watson, but he's point on in this vid:



In a climate that normalizes violence, you're bound to get exactly that.

And the fact this didn't start with trump, and won't change or end with him gone.
You can all vote democrat all you want, this shits not going away.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin