The Logic of Atheists vs. Theist Arguments

[Baruch]

Meh... "Belief" is too broad, too sweeping. As my fiancee, my wife claimed that she believed in God. I asked her to describe God. She described a vague sense of what some have called "belief in belief". When I told her bluntly, "That's not God", she agreed. She just never thought about it much and didn't want to offend people.

You see this happening worldwide. Although many people claim to be an adherent of a region, when pressed for details on what they actually believe the specifics would have gotten them stoned to death or put on the rack when religion had real power.

Religion is a mile wide and an inch deep.  Mostly because the unexamined life is the only one worth living, unless one is a geek.  Your notion of progress is .. fanciful.  Optimism only requires a brain chemical imbalance, same as pessimism.

[aileron]

Religion is a mile wide and an inch deep.  Mostly because the unexamined life is the only one worth living, unless one is a geek.  Your notion of progress is .. fanciful.  Optimism only requires a brain chemical imbalance, same as pessimism.

Well, I do consider it progress that the odds I'll be stoned to death are slim. Baby steps. Of course others are free to disagree and argue that my being stoned to death represents progress.

[Baruch]

Well, I do consider it progress that the odds I'll be stoned to death are slim. Baby steps. Of course others are free to disagree and argue that my being stoned to death represents progress.

Definitely pragmatic.  Small steps are the only one's available.  For real progress, if it ever happened, I will be long dead.  Today, we have many more ways to get stoned.  Is that progress?

[Baruch]

Your silence on spiritual experience speaks for itself...

Not silent.  I have discussed this before, but don't have the time or inclination to repeat.  Please review all 34,000+ posts I have made, mix them all together, and apply the secret decoder ring from the Kracker Jack's box.

[josephpalazzo]

People could choose to take all their money out of the banks, and spend it all at once, to avoid the negative interest. 

Stop repeating what I wrote. It's plagiarism.

But that isn't healthy consumerism.

Unhealthy to you, not to everybody. Think again.

[josephpalazzo]

Not silent.  I have discussed this before, but don't have the time or inclination to repeat.  Please review all 34,000+ posts I have made, mix them all together, and apply the secret decoder ring from the Kracker Jack's box.

Blah, blah, blah...

[Baruch]

Stop repeating what I wrote. It's plagiarism.Unhealthy to you, not to everybody. Think again.

A double failure.  Missed your nap?  I missed mine, I am only now getting to my cold coffee from breakfast ;-(

[aileron]

Today, we have many more ways to get stoned.  Is that progress?

Progress of a sort, yes. Throwing a fairly hefty stone hits with about 1 Joule. Your friendly, neighborhood Polaris warhead hits with about 836,800,000,000,000 Joules. We haven't become nicer or less violent as a species, but we've gotten more circumspect about using all those Joules when we know they'll be returned in kind. Mutual Assured Destruction may not be real progress, but it's the best we have for now.

[josephpalazzo]

A double failure.

ME: negative interest means more spending from consumers, less money in banks.
YOU: People could choose to take all their money out of the banks, and spend it all at once, to avoid the negative interest.

SAME

[Baruch]

ME: negative interest means more spending from consumers, less money in banks.
YOU: People could choose to take all their money out of the banks, and spend it all at once, to avoid the negative interest.

SAME

A first, we actually understand each other.  We differ on why it is bad idea to create a bank run ;-((

[josephpalazzo]

A first, we actually understand each other.  We differ on why it is bad idea to create a bank run ;-((

You suffer but the rest benefit... SPOCK "The Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few"

[Baruch]

You suffer but the rest benefit... SPOCK "The Needs of the Many Outweigh the Needs of the Few"

Perfect communism.  Is that you, Lenin?

Completed my nap.

[josephpalazzo]

Perfect communism.  Is that you, Lenin?

Completed my nap.

Duh, there is no communism on Vulcan.

[Baruch]

Duh, there is no communism on Vulcan.

They are a matriarchy under T'Pao

[josephpalazzo]

They are a matriarchy under T'Pao

How would you know she live(d?) in the 24th century...