The Logic of Atheists vs. Theist Arguments

[Baruch]

Reminds me of the movie Transcendence (a movie I find a lot of people misapprehend). In the beginning of the movie, most people realize who the cultists are, but by the end of the movie, by the magic of narrative, most people seem to have switched their position to rally behind the cultist POV. Fascinating movie, IMO.

Floride in the water?  MJ legalization?

[Baruch]

Interpretation. The babble says what it means and means what it says. Thus spake gawd.

Some atheist are very knowledgeable about religion.  But not all ...

[josephpalazzo]

Thanks for the reminder.  It never hurts to be skeptical of what any donkey tells you.

I'm here to serve...

[josephpalazzo]

Interpretation. The babble says what it means and means what it says. Thus spake gawd.

The  bible literally says what it literally says, except where it doesn't...

[Baruch]

The  bible literally says what it literally says, except where it doesn't...

Interpretation is unavoidable in all human situations.  Literalists are ... maniacs.

[Cavebear]

No doubt.  What we believe literally shapes reality.  There is scientific evidence for this in the work of Dr. Bruce Lipton. https://www.brucelipton.com/about
So, you choose your reality.  You are the captain of your ship, it will go where you direct it.  If you don't want God, He will never force Himself into your awareness. 

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Wikipedia says "Lipton is generally considered someone who believes in pseudoscience and isn't highly regarded by the scientific community.  A 2010 publication asserted that Lipton remains on the sidelines of conventional discussions of epigenetics, basically ignored by mainstream science.  Lipton has been criticized and called a “quack” by surgical oncologist David Gorski."

Doesn't seem like a very good source for your arguments...

[Baruch]

Epigenetics is controversial.  On the margins of epigenetics must be very marginal.

That quote is rather necro.  What number is it, if it came from this string?

[josephpalazzo]

Wikipedia says "Lipton is generally considered someone who believes in pseudoscience and isn't highly regarded by the scientific community.  A 2010 publication asserted that Lipton remains on the sidelines of conventional discussions of epigenetics, basically ignored by mainstream science.  Lipton has been criticized and called a “quack” by surgical oncologist David Gorski."

Doesn't seem like a very good source for your arguments...

For a second I thought you were talking about tea. Wow..."an internationally recognized leader in bridging science and spirituality..." A tall order. Theists must hate him. Spirituality is noble, materialism is undignified. How dare he find a bridge... blasphemy.

[Absolute_Agent]

Wikipedia says "Lipton is generally considered someone who believes in pseudoscience and isn't highly regarded by the scientific community.  A 2010 publication asserted that Lipton remains on the sidelines of conventional discussions of epigenetics, basically ignored by mainstream science.  Lipton has been criticized and called a “quack” by surgical oncologist David Gorski."

Doesn't seem like a very good source for your arguments...

Anyone who challenges the anti-theistic dogma of scientism is treated like this.  No surprise there. 

Deus summus

[aitm]

He will never force Himself into your awareness. 

Unknowingly stated a perfectly truthful fact.

[josephpalazzo]

Unknowingly stated a perfectly truthful fact.

It's not God we should fear, but the people who believe in God...

[Blackleaf]

Anyone who challenges the anti-theistic dogma of scientism is treated like this.  No surprise there. 

Deus summus

Anti-thiestic dogma of scientism... Typical ignorant theist. Science has nothing to do with religion, and it has no dogma. If you find your religion in conflict with science, the problem you have is with reality, not science.

[Unbeliever]

It's not God we should fear, but the people who believe in God...

Yeah, anyone who believes they have God on their side is dangerous as hell.

[Hydra009]

What we believe literally shapes reality.

I'm picturing you as a duck.  Feel anything yet?

[Absolute_Agent]

Science has nothing to do with religion, and it has no dogma.

Steven Jay Gould & Richard Dawkins might agree with that opinion, but religion and science have a long history together.  The first science, astronomy / astrology, was indistinguishable from religion.

Deus summus