The Logic of Atheists vs. Theist Arguments

[Absolute_Agent]

Each human being, animal etc is G-d playing hide-and-seek with G-d.  G-d is the only reality.

I suppose in that sense atheists are the referees?

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[Baruch]

I suppose in that sense atheists are the referees?

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Not disinterested, in the battle between sects.  No, religion or not, we make a poor showing as representatives of a good G-d.

[josephpalazzo]

I'll tell you one thing.  I'll never take orders from a donkey.  They tell you anything, just to see if they can get you to do something stupid.

It's my experience that donkeys are smart, people are stupid. You've been warned...

[josephpalazzo]

If He had everything He desires, He would get bored, as there would be no thrill of anticipation, of development, or suspense.  He would then, being transcendent, decide to create an illusory time continuum which one part of His consciousness would enter, then sit back and savor the show as everything He already had in reality, gradually but inevitably blossoms into the fullness of glory.  Then He would say Himself "That was grand, let us do it again!" Each time there would be variations and He would also play with it a bit in real time as it's unfolding.   He would create infinitely expanding clusters of worlds and universes in which to enjoy this exquisite game.  And so Viola! Here we are...

Logically speaking that is.

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Still peddling your religious horseshit to get gullible people subservient to their masters. The thing is - you are on the wrong forum but too stupid to get it. Are you think that you'll get your 72 virgins anyway without martyring yourself?

[Absolute_Agent]

Still peddling your religious horseshit to get gullible people subservient to their masters. The thing is - you are on the wrong forum but too stupid to get it. Are you think that you'll get your 72 virgins anyway without martyring yourself?

Still using insults as a substitute for rational arguments to get your point across I see, @josephpalazzo.  Don't you want 72 virgins in Paradise?

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[josephpalazzo]

Still using insults as a substitute for rational arguments to get your point across I see, @josephpalazzo.  Don't you want 72 virgins in Paradise?

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I see that you really believe in that shit of 72 virgins in paradise. So my guess is that you also believe that Muhammad really flew on a winged animal to see God. And worse you think that atheists in this forum are going to believe in that shit also. This is so laughable. You made my day...

[SGOS]

It's my experience that donkeys are smart, people are stupid. You've been warned...

Thanks for the reminder.  It never hurts to be skeptical of what any donkey tells you.

[Absolute_Agent]

I see that you really believe in that shit of 72 virgins in paradise. So my guess is that you also believe that Muhammad really flew on a winged animal to see God. And worse you think that atheists in this forum are going to believe in that shit also. This is so laughable. You made my day...

You're welcome. 

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[josephpalazzo]

You're welcome. 

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You're not.

[Sal1981]

You know, I played a video game with that sort of psychology earlier.  A tribesman was captured by a cult.  At first, he resists fiercely.  After a time, he obeys the cult while inwardly hating it.  Later - in an extremely disturbing scene - he gives himself over to the cult and seems to derive great enjoyment in such subservience.

At which stage are you?

Reminds me of the movie Transcendence (a movie I find a lot of people misapprehend). In the beginning of the movie, most people realize who the cultists are, but by the end of the movie, by the magic of narrative, most people seem to have switched their position to rally behind the cultist POV. Fascinating movie, IMO.

[aitm]

in the Bible, the stars are the angels.  The stars cast down are the fallen angels.

Interpretation. The babble says what it means and means what it says. Thus spake gawd.

[SGOS]

Reminds me of the movie Transcendence (a movie I find a lot of people misapprehend). In the beginning of the movie, most people realize who the cultists are, but by the end of the movie, by the magic of narrative, most people seem to have switched their position to rally behind the cultist POV. Fascinating movie, IMO.

I've enjoyed that movie too.  It's science fiction, not horror, but it's viscerally chilling.

[Mike Cl]

I see that you really believe in that shit of 72 virgins in paradise. So my guess is that you also believe that Muhammad really flew on a winged animal to see God. And worse you think that atheists in this forum are going to believe in that shit also. This is so laughable. You made my day...

At least, at times, he is amusing.  Every now and again, a belly laugh.

[Unbeliever]

Careful.  You're on pretty shaky theological ground here.  Desire comes from want.  Does a god want?
You know, I played a video game with that sort of psychology earlier.  A tribesman was captured by a cult.  At first, he resists fiercely.  After a time, he obeys the cult while inwardly hating it.  Later - in an extremely disturbing scene - he gives himself over to the cult and seems to derive great enjoyment in such subservience.

Reminds me of a movie - A Man Called Horse.

[Baruch]

Thanks for the reminder.  It never hurts to be skeptical of what any donkey tells you.

Asses .. like politicians.