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Offline Baruch

Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2019, 06:02:07 AM »
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Well, I'll be darned.  I thought it was from the Crusades.  Thanks.

Still, just another 1200s theist-on-theist "debate", LOL!

Yes, the crusade against S France.  Not all crusades were against the ME.
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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2019, 06:45:49 AM »
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Yes, the crusade against S France.  Not all crusades were against the ME.
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Offline Baruch

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2019, 10:25:16 AM »
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Hitler would have loved you.

I used to have kosher Nazi regalia, and stabbed a picture of you every morning, Snoopy, with my Luftwaffe dagger.
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Offline Cavebear

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 07:57:52 AM »
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Yes, the crusade against S France.  Not all crusades were against the ME.

The rabidly offensive unconcern with human life was and is common among theists of all kinds.  I only meant that the LOCATION of the christian STATEMENT of "kill them all" etc surprised me.  Given my knowledge of the religious wars in Europe after the Crusades, I was actually shocked.  It made sense. 

To me, theism arguments are like arguing about whether to break the large or small end of a boiled egg.  Yeah Swift, I'll save us having Baruch mention too much of it.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 08:13:48 AM »
The Albigensian Crusade was an interior crusade.  Like Chiang Kai Shek, the Catholics considered an interior enemy to be more serious than an exterior enemy.
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Offline Cavebear

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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2019, 09:16:15 AM »
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The Albigensian Crusade was an interior crusade.  Like Chiang Kai Shek, the Catholics considered an interior enemy to be more serious than an exterior enemy.

I fully understand that.  But what part of my admitting that I got the LOCATION of the phrase wrong is still bothering you?  Is it that finally having gotten SOMETHING right, you can't accept it?  I checked the reference, I agree.  You were right. 

Be at peace...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2019, 07:52:52 PM »
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I fully understand that.  But what part of my admitting that I got the LOCATION of the phrase wrong is still bothering you?  Is it that finally having gotten SOMETHING right, you can't accept it?  I checked the reference, I agree.  You were right. 

Be at peace...

it isn't over until the fat lady sings.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2019, 07:57:58 PM »
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it isn't over until the fat lady sings.
Who is the fat lady? And why do we have to wait for her to sing before it's all over?

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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2019, 08:09:40 PM »
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They massacred all the people there.  Albigensian Crusade, with Papal approval ... is where the quote comes from.  The papal ambassador was present at the massacre.

When people really believe in Hell and in their self-righteousness to save others from it, atrocities are inevitable.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #39 on: August 16, 2019, 01:15:26 AM »
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When people really believe in Hell and in their self-righteousness to save others from it, atrocities are inevitable.

When people believe in secular utopia, the end justifies the means.  Dystopia results.  In fact, anything people do, dystopia results.  Utopia will never result, it is self contradictory.
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« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2019, 08:07:40 AM »
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When people believe in secular utopia, the end justifies the means.  Dystopia results.  In fact, anything people do, dystopia results.  Utopia will never result, it is self contradictory.

The only thing good about "religious" utopia is that it's fictional...

Offline Baruch

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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2019, 05:08:39 PM »
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The only thing good about "religious" utopia is that it's fictional...

For some.  All of them are bad.  Humanity can't help itself.
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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2019, 05:37:29 PM »
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For some.  All of them are bad.  Humanity can't help itself.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2019, 05:52:18 PM »
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There 's a place called Helios. It's beautiful and hot...

Didn't work out for Phaeton or Icarus.
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Re: Dem debates ...
« Reply #44 on: August 16, 2019, 06:15:46 PM »
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Didn't work out for Phaeton or Icarus.

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