Is it moral for our governments to impose poverty on us?

Started by Greatest I am, July 25, 2019, 03:49:55 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: Greatest I am on August 19, 2019, 03:37:53 PM
The U.S and it's government want to be seen as the hero of the world and the killer of terrorism.

They think the head of that is in Afghanistan.

My personal feeling is that we should all get out of the M E and let the Muslims war as much as their vile hearts desire. We can live without their oil and illicit drugs, which is about all that Afghanistan produces for the West.

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DL

The US was damned in 1939 for not being World Policeman.  So we became World Policeman.  I agree that was a mistake.  Let the world kill itself, it is none of our business, in 1939 nor now.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on August 19, 2019, 05:58:43 PM
Operation Iraqi Liberation - OIL.

Oil for China, not the US.  We are mercenaries for Arabs and their Chinese customers.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Unbeliever on August 19, 2019, 05:58:43 PM
Operation Iraqi Liberation - OIL.

Oil wasn't the purpose.  It was surrounding the opponent and limiting expansion.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 20, 2019, 02:40:00 AM
Oil wasn't the purpose.  It was surrounding the opponent and limiting expansion.

In 1991 this was the case.  They weren't a real threat in 2003.
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Greatest I am

Quote from: Baruch on August 19, 2019, 09:04:15 PM
Oil for China, not the US.  We are mercenaries for Arabs and their Chinese customers.

Can a man be free in a world of slaves?

What is the first duty of a free man?

Freedom is good but not the American kind.

Regards
DL

Cavebear

Quote from: Greatest I am on August 24, 2019, 05:15:16 PM
Can a man be free in a world of slaves?

What is the first duty of a free man?

Freedom is good but not the American kind.

Regards
DL

Theists tend to support slavery.

The first duty of any free person is to question the authorities.

Freedom is good, and "American" has a good history even with the "original sin".  And I get to say that because of my Abolitionist and Quaker ancestors.
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Greatest I am

Quote from: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 05:21:05 PM
Theists tend to support slavery.

The first duty of any free person is to question the authorities.

Freedom is good, and "American" has a good history even with the "original sin".  And I get to say that because of my Abolitionist and Quaker ancestors.

Was.

I miss the old Americans.

They were more like Canadians.

Regards
DL

Cavebear

Quote from: Greatest I am on August 24, 2019, 05:25:50 PM
Was.

I miss the old Americans.

They were more like Canadians.

Regards
DL

Was there a point to this?
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Shiranu

QuoteFreedom is good, and "American" has a good history even with the "original sin".

QuoteI miss the old Americans.

They were more like Canadians.

When was this?
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Cavebear

Quote from: Shiranu on August 24, 2019, 06:20:20 PM
When was this?

Back when the entire non-native Americans were French beaver-trappers maybe?  None of those dirty English types planting tobacco and whipping slaves...  They never came here, right?
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Baruch

Quote from: Greatest I am on August 24, 2019, 05:15:16 PM
Can a man be free in a world of slaves?

What is the first duty of a free man?

Freedom is good but not the American kind.

Regards
DL

Ancient meaning of "free" as in NT ... I can own slaves, nobody claims me as a slave.  Same as it was in the US until 1863.
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Baruch

Quote from: Greatest I am on August 24, 2019, 05:25:50 PM
Was.

I miss the old Americans.

They were more like Canadians.

Regards
DL

US in 1950 and Canada in 1950 were similar.  A long time ago.  We both still oppressed the First Nations, but the Canada didn't have any African-Americans to torture.
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on August 24, 2019, 05:21:05 PM
Theists tend to support slavery.

The first duty of any free person is to question the authorities.

Freedom is good, and "American" has a good history even with the "original sin".  And I get to say that because of my Abolitionist and Quaker ancestors.

Total BS.  When the whole world is theist, and has slavery, there isn't any correlation.  Soviets and Mao's people weren't real atheists, so it is claimed (more BS).
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Baruch

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
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Don't do that.