Author Topic: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us  (Read 466 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2019, 10:40:18 AM »
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Actually, there IS "all" in "all".  There IS however no "I" in "team"...

Too bad we are not only tribal, but as individualists (narcissists) all our teams have at most one member.
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2019, 11:16:17 AM »
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Too bad we are not only tribal, but as individualists (narcissists) all our teams have at most one member.

Speak for yourself.  I count my tribe about 7.7 billion people as of April 2019 .  Sorry, I'm behind in counting...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2019, 01:43:02 PM »
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Speak for yourself.  I count my tribe about 7.7 billion people as of April 2019 .  Sorry, I'm behind in counting...

See!  I knew you were a globalist traitor ;-)  Putin is part of your tribe?  Hmmm.  Let all of them move in with you, now ... you White billionaires can afford it.
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2019, 01:45:28 PM »
Here's one of my favorite quotes:


Quote from: H.G. Wells, in The Discovery of the Future
We look back through countless millions of years and
see the great will to live struggling out of the intertidal
slime, struggling from shape to shape and from power
to power, crawling and then walking confidently upon
the land, struggling generation after generation to
master the air, creeping down into the darkness of
the deep; we see it turn upon itself in rage and
hunger and reshape itself anew, we watch it draw
nearer and more akin to us, expanding, elaborating
itself, pursuing its relentless inconceivable purpose,
until at last it reaches us and its being beats through
our brains and arteries...It is possible to believe that
all the past is but the beginning of a beginning,
and that all that is and has been is but the twilight of the dawn.
It is possible to believe that all that the mind of man has ever
accomplished is but the dream before the awakening...
Out of our...lineage, minds will spring, that will reach back to us
in our littleness to know us better than we know ourselves.
A day will come, one day in the unending succession of days,
when beings, beings who are now latent in our thoughts
and hidden in our loins, shall stand upon this Earth as
one stands upon a footstool, and shall laugh and reach
out their hands amidst the stars.
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"The Christian resolution to find the world ugly and bad has made the world ugly and bad.”
Friedrich Nietzsche

Offline Cavebear

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2019, 01:46:27 PM »
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See!  I knew you were a globalist traitor ;-)  Putin is part of your tribe?  Hmmm.  Let all of them move in with you, now ... you White billionaires can afford it.

Yeah, but so is the poorest villager a member of my tribe.  And even you...
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2019, 01:50:09 PM »
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Here's one of my favorite quotes:

Well said by Wells, and thank you for offerring it.. 

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Offline Baruch

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2019, 01:56:56 PM »
H G Wells ... would he consider you Eloi or Morlock?
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Offline Cavebear

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2019, 02:06:33 PM »
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H G Wells ... would he consider you Eloi or Morlock?

Neither of course.  We are not one or the other today.
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Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2019, 02:07:20 PM »
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H G Wells ... would he consider you Eloi or Morlock?

He'd consider me an Ubermensch!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2019, 02:10:41 PM »
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He'd consider me an Ubermensch!

I think it takes like another 10,000 posts.  Or 20.  Baruch might know.  I bet he has a chart.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #40 on: August 16, 2019, 01:29:15 AM »
If this site modifies the engine to allow down votes, people can de-evolve back to slime mold ;-)
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luu shalmaata luu balt’aata
May you be well, may you be healthy

Re: Carl Sagan - A universe not made for us
« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2019, 07:57:42 AM »
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If this site modifies the engine to allow down votes, people can de-evolve back to slime mold ;-)

For some that would be an improvement...
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