Author Topic: Why are we being distracted by Trump fluff? Deutsche Bank collapse in progress  (Read 1238 times)

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I suspect Putin's agenda is to invade Europe, and Trump's job for him is to keep America from interfering when he does. The UK is already unlikely to be able to do much of anything, and after America's political institutions have been sufficiently degraded, America will be unable/unwilling to do anything, either.

I surely do hope I'm wrong!

Putin knows Russia is in no position to invade Europe. Aside from being a petty tyrant, Putin is much better versed in military and geopolitical strategy than Trump.

The real danger is that Putin will roll the dice on a strategy that could well break up NATO once and for all. If he sends his little green men in unmarked uniforms to cause problems in Latvia, Estonia, or Lithuania the way he did in Ukraine, he'll deny they're his troops. Trump with his usual stupidity and submissiveness to Putin will waffle. I can picture his fat mouth spewing, "He says they're not his."

Putin could of course pull his troops out if it gets too risky for him, but by then no nation in NATO will trust the USA, at least under Trump, to implement Article 5.
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Putin knows Russia is in no position to invade Europe. Aside from being a petty tyrant, Putin is much better versed in military and geopolitical strategy than Trump.

The real danger is that Putin will roll the dice on a strategy that could well break up NATO once and for all. If he sends his little green men in unmarked uniforms to cause problems in Latvia, Estonia, or Lithuania the way he did in Ukraine, he'll deny they're his troops. Trump with his usual stupidity and submissiveness to Putin will waffle. I can picture his fat mouth spewing, "He says they're not his."

Putin could of course pull his troops out if it gets too risky for him, but by then no nation in NATO will trust the USA, at least under Trump, to implement Article 5.


Yeah, I think now it's not Europe he intends to invade, but he may well want to reconquer the Baltic states that have been lost to Russia, the former Soviet countries, and do so without undue interference from the West, either America or Europe.
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Yeah, I think now it's not Europe he intends to invade, but he may well want to reconquer the Baltic states that have been lost to Russia, the former Soviet countries, and do so without undue interference from the West, either America or Europe.

Revanchism is real.  Putin does put on both legs of his pants at the same time (that Russian hopping dance is useful).  Like old generals, y'all are always fighting the last war.
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Yeah, the last war. I don't think humans will ever fight the last war, until there are no humans left to fight any more wars at all.
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Yeah, I think now it's not Europe he intends to invade, but he may well want to reconquer the Baltic states that have been lost to Russia, the former Soviet countries, and do so without undue interference from the West, either America or Europe.

I think you two give Putin far too much credit.

Thinking and expecting ruthless dictators to be sane, to be controlled and not "too" ambitious has gotten humanity into some really terrible situations the last several hundred years.

I know, all we can do is wait and see what Putin will do. I think he's very ambitious, though.
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I know, all we can do is wait and see what Putin will do. I think he's very ambitious, though.

But not Emperor Xi, or the current homicidal leader of Saudi Arabia (American ally)?  You just are jealous we can't jump (unless Black) or Russian dance (unless Russian).
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I don't care about some stupid bank, one which was a player in the 2008 collapse, if memory serves.  Please don't try to distract me from my Trump stuff.

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Please don't try to distract me from my Trump stuff.

I am making faces to the screen right now and distracting you from your Trump stuff.
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I am making faces to the screen right now and distracting you from your Trump stuff.
Goddamit!

Trump is a weapon of mass distraction all by himself.
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I don't care about some stupid bank, one which was a player in the 2008 collapse, if memory serves.  Please don't try to distract me from my Trump stuff.

You don't care, until your investments/checking are zeroed out.

If the banks collapse, how with the Socialists steal all the accounts to pay for their utopia?
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Yeah, I think now it's not Europe he intends to invade, but he may well want to reconquer the Baltic states that have been lost to Russia, the former Soviet countries, and do so without undue interference from the West, either America or Europe.

Putin's goal is to incrementally reconstitute the Soviet Union without the burden of communists and get warm water ports and resources.
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Putin's goal is to incrementally reconstitute the Soviet Union without the burden of communists and get warm water ports and resources.

He is a patriot.  Are you?
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He is a patriot.  Are you?

Putin is no more a "patriot" than Trump or any other wanna-be dictator is.  Wanting power for the sake of the is not patriotic.  I may not be either.  I'm more attuned to the advancement of the human species (responsibly) than any particular nation.  Though I do think the US is a decent start.
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