Oregon Senate Closed by GOP Militia Over Climate Change Bill

Started by Shiranu, June 23, 2019, 02:25:50 PM

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Shiranu

https://www.wsj.com/articles/oregon-capitol-closed-after-threats-from-militia-groups-11561240791


QuoteSALEM, Ore.â€"Law-enforcement officials closed the state Capitol on Saturday, following threats from militia groups that were made while a partisan showdown has halted all activity in the Oregon Senate.

“The State Police Superintendent just informed the Senate president of a credible threat from militia groups coming to the Capitol tomorrow,” read a text sent out to senators on Friday that was shared with The Wall Street Journal. “The Superintendent strongly recommends that no one come to the Capitol.”


Oregon State Police said Saturday they were monitoring threats and had closed the Capitol entirely.


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The bill, HB 2020, would make Oregon the second state in the country to set up a cap-and-trade system for all sectors of the economy. California was the first, after passing a similar bill in 2016. Democrats had scheduled a vote on the bill Thursday, but all 11 Republican senators fled the state. At least 20 senators must be present for a quorum, so Democrats need at least two Republicans present to hold a vote.


emocratic Gov. Kate Brown on Thursday deployed state police to search for the missing senators and bring them back to Salem for the vote.


The legislative session will end June 30, at which time all bills that haven’t been voted on will die. The governor said she is prepared to call a special session, to start July 2, if the Republicans don’t return this month. Republicans, meanwhile, say they won’t come back to the state unless the Democrats agree to major changes in the bill. They have argued that although there is a need for action on climate change, the bill in its current form would cripple manufacturing and other industries in the state.



A few things...


1. The bill is already heavily neutered and has very few restrictions on the lumber industry that are desperately needed to provide protection for Oregon's forests. This is not some ultra-progressive bill, it's a heavily compromised bill meant to appease Republicans... who still refuse to vote on it.



2. An Oregon GOP Senator literally stated that he would shoot any police who came to escort him back to his job and the Oregon GOP is openly celebrating the fact that a white supremacist militia has closed the state senate through threats of violence. All of this over, again, a heavily ham-stringed environmental protection bill.

If a Republican ever says they care about police lives again, I propose we are allowed to castrate them for the good of the nation.
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Baruch

Yikes!

Shades of BLM standoff in Nevada and subsequent standoff in Oregon.

Some Right folks are going to get lead poisoning.

I happen to agree, that Oregon, even more than California (Oregon is where people too crazy for California move to) should go full Communist.  They used to like communes in the 80s ...

https://www.oregonlive.com/rajneesh/2011/04/part_one_it_was_worse_than_we.html

At least one state should be allowed to prove why AOC is complete psycho (but cute).  As a warning to the other 49.

Climate change is happening.  Happens all the time.  Happened before humans.  If you don't like human generated heat loss ... then die already.  You shouldn't have cars, housing, clothing or food .. because all of those activities generate waste heat.  In fact, such a PC is a waste of a human life.

PC people ... if you don't obey my dictatorship right now! ... we will all die!  Mostly from the PC screeching hysterically.  This is why sanitariums shouldn't have been closed in the 70s.
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Unbeliever

When Republicans talk about "compromise" they men "give us everything we demand."
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 23, 2019, 05:12:40 PM
When Republicans talk about "compromise" they men "give us everything we demand."

That is a bipartisan position, Comrade Unbeliever.  Yes, we can stop anthropomorphic heat ... kill all humans (though all that activity will generate a short heat spike).  Lets start with Liberals, then recheck our progress before all humans are dead ;-)
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Blackleaf

Remember when Republicans accused Democrats of being obstructionists? Yeah, can't recall Democrats ever going into hiding when they can't win a vote.
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Baruch

Quote from: Blackleaf on June 25, 2019, 10:27:04 PM
Remember when Republicans accused Democrats of being obstructionists? Yeah, can't recall Democrats ever going into hiding when they can't win a vote.

The D/R uni-party is bidirectional constipation.  That is why I am a centrist.  I try to stay out of the shit.
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Mike Cl

Quote from: Baruch on June 26, 2019, 12:15:38 AM
The D/R uni-party is bidirectional constipation.  That is why I am a centrist.  I try to stay out of the shit.
Really???  Used to think that was correct.  But now-a-days you make up the shit.
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Blackleaf on June 25, 2019, 10:27:04 PM
Remember when Republicans accused Democrats of being obstructionists? Yeah, can't recall Democrats ever going into hiding when they can't win a vote.

Apparently the Texas Democrats did something similar back in 2003:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/national/democrats-in-texas-house-stage-another-walkout-over-remap.html
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Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on June 26, 2019, 09:19:07 AM
Really???  Used to think that was correct.  But now-a-days you make up the shit.

I don't use makeup.  Are you in clown face?  Ah yes, per D-psychos ... clowns are all IT and Alt-Right.

Texas legislature ... yes, just hog tie them.  Cowboy skills ;-)
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Shiranu

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 26, 2019, 01:29:43 PM
Apparently the Texas Democrats did something similar back in 2003:

https://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/12/national/democrats-in-texas-house-stage-another-walkout-over-remap.html


I don't see the difference between this and a fillabuster; either way, same result.

My problem is much more with the threatening to shoot police officers for doing their job to make them do their job, and shutting down the Senate with a mob of armed thugs.
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Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on June 26, 2019, 07:03:58 PM
I don't see the difference between this and a fillabuster; either way, same result.

My problem is much more with the threatening to shoot police officers for doing their job to make them do their job, and shutting down the Senate with a mob of armed thugs.

Yes, filibuster is much more civilized.
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Unbeliever

Quote from: Shiranu on June 26, 2019, 07:03:58 PM
I don't see the difference between this and a fillabuster; either way, same result.

My problem is much more with the threatening to shoot police officers for doing their job to make them do their job, and shutting down the Senate with a mob of armed thugs.

Yeah, I don't recall the Democrats doing that. And I suspect its only the beginning of a trend that will get worse.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 27, 2019, 01:54:17 PM
Yeah, I don't recall the Democrats doing that. And I suspect its only the beginning of a trend that will get worse.

Democrats = Mahatma Gandhi (not).  Look up the Texas legislature brouhaha.  It failed.  As will this Oregon business.

Armed occupation?  Call in the police.
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Baruch

"Oregon Republicans To End Walkout And Return To The Senate" ... good.  Now keep militias out of the state house.
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Cavebear

Quote from: Shiranu on June 23, 2019, 02:25:50 PM
https://www.wsj.com/articles/oregon-capitol-closed-after-threats-from-militia-groups-11561240791

A few things...
1. The bill is already heavily neutered and has very few restrictions on the lumber industry that are desperately needed to provide protection for Oregon's forests. This is not some ultra-progressive bill, it's a heavily compromised bill meant to appease Republicans... who still refuse to vote on it.

2. An Oregon GOP Senator literally stated that he would shoot any police who came to escort him back to his job and the Oregon GOP is openly celebrating the fact that a white supremacist militia has closed the state senate through threats of violence. All of this over, again, a heavily ham-stringed environmental protection bill.

If a Republican ever says they care about police lives again, I propose we are allowed to castrate them for the good of the nation.

I understand the reason behind your thoughts.  Wouldn't it be nice if it could be retroactive.  But we have to argue with the other folks as they are...  :(
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