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A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...

Started by Baruch, June 17, 2019, 01:46:39 AM

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Baruch

because his disobedient admiral didn't follow orders, and his Spanish ally took orders from that disobedient admiral ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRtUrvmok-c

Fortunately the French Navy was much better 25 years earlier ... or there would be no Yorktown victory for the US.

A campaign he did win, at his peak strength, the first victory at Ulm being nearly bloodless ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhQe2cjr5XQ

I have a 19th century reproduction bronze commemorative medal, that celebrated the victory at Ulm.
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Minimalist

Villeneuve should have been shot for his actions before Trafalgar. 
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Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on June 18, 2019, 12:43:52 AM
Villeneuve should have been shot for his actions before Trafalgar.

Better before than after.  I suspect residual aristocratic idiocy in the Napoleonic Navy, that had been guillotined out of the Army.
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Minimalist

His ships and crews were in need of repair/rest following a long voyage to the Carribean and back not to mention Cape Finistere on his return.  He had no common tactical doctrine with his Spanish "allies" and only sailed when he learned that Napoleon had sent a map maker to replace him.  Trafalgar was the result.
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-- H. L. Mencken

Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on June 18, 2019, 11:25:22 AM
His ships and crews were in need of repair/rest following a long voyage to the Carribean and back not to mention Cape Finistere on his return.  He had no common tactical doctrine with his Spanish "allies" and only sailed when he learned that Napoleon had sent a map maker to replace him.  Trafalgar was the result.

Typical EU cluster f**k.
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Minimalist

I think you can say fuck here without the asterisks.
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Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on June 19, 2019, 10:18:53 PM
I think you can say fuck here without the asterisks.

My paramour prefers I use my asterisks ;-)
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Gerard

Well, basically the Spanish expediton by the British in combination with the Russian disaster did Napoleon in.

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Baruch

Quote from: Gerard on July 08, 2019, 01:04:27 PM
Well, basically the Spanish expediton by the British in combination with the Russian disaster did Napoleon in.

Gerard

The British army, allied with Portugal, had access to plenty of port ;-)  In Russia the French had no access to vodka, nes pas?
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Unbeliever

No access to vodka - in Russia!? How is that even possible?
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 08, 2019, 03:38:13 PM
No access to vodka - in Russia!? How is that even possible?

You had to kill a Russian to get to the supply!
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Unbeliever

I guess their vodka is something they'd protect with their lives...
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 08, 2019, 03:51:15 PM
I guess their vodka is something they'd protect with their lives...

That and ice cream.  They eat it outside, from a vendor, in the middle of a blizzard, in mid-Winter.  Thus ... don't invade Russia!
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Cavebear

Is that because vodka is safer to drink than the local water? 
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Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on July 20, 2019, 09:49:22 AM
Is that because vodka is safer to drink than the local water?

Of course.  So is wine.  Local sanitation is so 20th century.  But the Czar had a monopoly on vodka.  You were required to drink it regularly, as part of your taxation.
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