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Offline Baruch

A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« on: June 17, 2019, 01:46:39 AM »
because his disobedient admiral didn't follow orders, and his Spanish ally took orders from that disobedient admiral ...

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Fortunately the French Navy was much better 25 years earlier ... or there would be no Yorktown victory for the US.

A campaign he did win, at his peak strength, the first victory at Ulm being nearly bloodless ...

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I have a 19th century reproduction bronze commemorative medal, that celebrated the victory at Ulm.
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2019, 12:43:52 AM »
Villeneuve should have been shot for his actions before Trafalgar. 
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2019, 04:16:50 AM »
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Villeneuve should have been shot for his actions before Trafalgar.

Better before than after.  I suspect residual aristocratic idiocy in the Napoleonic Navy, that had been guillotined out of the Army.
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2019, 11:25:22 AM »
His ships and crews were in need of repair/rest following a long voyage to the Carribean and back not to mention Cape Finistere on his return.  He had no common tactical doctrine with his Spanish "allies" and only sailed when he learned that Napoleon had sent a map maker to replace him.  Trafalgar was the result.
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2019, 03:32:16 PM »
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His ships and crews were in need of repair/rest following a long voyage to the Carribean and back not to mention Cape Finistere on his return.  He had no common tactical doctrine with his Spanish "allies" and only sailed when he learned that Napoleon had sent a map maker to replace him.  Trafalgar was the result.

Typical EU cluster f**k.
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2019, 10:18:53 PM »
I think you can say fuck here without the asterisks.
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2019, 12:57:31 AM »
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I think you can say fuck here without the asterisks.

My paramour prefers I use my asterisks ;-)
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Offline Gerard

Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 01:04:27 PM »
Well, basically the Spanish expediton by the British in combination with the Russian disaster did Napoleon in.

Gerard
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 03:23:14 PM »
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Well, basically the Spanish expediton by the British in combination with the Russian disaster did Napoleon in.

Gerard

The British army, allied with Portugal, had access to plenty of port ;-)  In Russia the French had no access to vodka, nes pas?
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 03:38:13 PM »
No access to vodka - in Russia!? How is that even possible?
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 03:40:25 PM »
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No access to vodka - in Russia!? How is that even possible?

You had to kill a Russian to get to the supply!
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2019, 03:51:15 PM »
I guess their vodka is something they'd protect with their lives...
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2019, 04:04:36 PM »
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I guess their vodka is something they'd protect with their lives...

That and ice cream.  They eat it outside, from a vendor, in the middle of a blizzard, in mid-Winter.  Thus ... don't invade Russia!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2019, 09:49:22 AM »
Is that because vodka is safer to drink than the local water? 
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Re: A battle Napoleon didn't lose ...
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2019, 11:01:41 AM »
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Is that because vodka is safer to drink than the local water?

Of course.  So is wine.  Local sanitation is so 20th century.  But the Czar had a monopoly on vodka.  You were required to drink it regularly, as part of your taxation.
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