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Christ Speaking Today

Started by Jagella, June 15, 2019, 04:56:19 PM

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Jagella

Is Christ speaking to any of us today?

As many of you are no doubt aware, some modern-day prophets tell us that Christ speaks to them. According to these prophets, they actually listen to Christ having the truth revealed to them from him while many other people don't bother to listen to Christ wallowing in error.

I think much can be said about these prophets' relation to Christ, but let me start out discussing the issue of anybody today having Christ speak to them. If we can believe what we read in the Bible, God spoke regularly to Moses and the prophets. And when Jesus came to the earth as a man, he preached directly to his followers and anybody else who would listen. His message was delivered with great urgency foretelling "the end of the age." I think that this story posits a Jesus who was sent to the earth to personally deliver such an important message. No other mode of communication would do.

We haven't heard much from God or Jesus since. For some mysterious reason, he chose to do most of his talking long ago when there was no modern communication technology like television, smart phones and the internet. In almost two thousand years, we have few holy books being written, and only some people accept them as authentic.

So apparently Christ doesn't speak much today. If I'm wrong, and he does speak to people like those modern prophets, then I'd think he would speak to anybody. If Christ is speaking to any of you, then I'm curious about his message. One important thing to consider here is knowing what message may come from Christ versus that which is the person's own thoughts or even that person's lies.

Unbeliever

If people hear Jesus speaking to them they probably need some professional help.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Blackleaf

It is funny how the creator of the universe prefers to communicate through a method that is indiscernible from one's own inner voice. It's almost like the god these people worship only exists in their heads...
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

aitm

Jesus has perfected his magnificence in the occasional imagery in a piece of toast.

The brilliance here is sublime.....almost as much as JC can be...or was.....or....never was.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Jagella

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 15, 2019, 05:12:21 PM
If people hear Jesus speaking to them they probably need some professional help.

It sure looks that way, doesn't it? I find it odd that Christ would reveal himself to people in ways that resemble delusion or hallucination or fraud on the part of his listener. He should be able to figure out that he needs a less ambiguous mode of revelation. Photos might be helpful.

Unbeliever

It's funny that God/Jesus usually tells people to do stuff they already wanted to do in the first place. Like when he told Joseph Smith to marry more than one woman. Very convenient...
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Jagella

Quote from: Blackleaf on June 15, 2019, 06:07:25 PM
It is funny how the creator of the universe prefers to communicate through a method that is indiscernible from one's own inner voice. It's almost like the god these people worship only exists in their heads...

Sure. God gets people to act like they're mentally ill. Why does he not know that doing so is not good PR?

Unbeliever

Yeah, especially since he's supposed to know absolutely everything.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

#8
Quote from: Unbeliever on June 15, 2019, 05:12:21 PM
If people hear Jesus speaking to them they probably need some professional help.

I have met Jesus in a vivid dream.  I told him I wasn't interested in saving him ;-)  Being idolized is a kind of Hell.

I like the Buddhist saying .. "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him".
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#9
Quote from: Jagella on June 15, 2019, 06:13:39 PM
It sure looks that way, doesn't it? I find it odd that Christ would reveal himself to people in ways that resemble delusion or hallucination or fraud on the part of his listener. He should be able to figure out that he needs a less ambiguous mode of revelation. Photos might be helpful.

All human experience is a fraud.  This is a broken holodeck experiment.  Happened all the time on Star Trek.

Traditionally, a direct revelation of G-d (and not G-d's backside that Moses saw) basically vaporizes you, G-d being white-hot like the Sun.  Your existence is incompatible with direct experience of G-d, even your atoms would be gone.  So it is G-d's mercy that direct experience doesn't happen often.  However, indirect experience happens everywhere, all the time.  But scoffers and mockers will miss this every time.

And I am not speaking of paranormal experience, I have had those too.  But ordinary experience, like ordinary buttered toast ;-) is a revelation for those whose eyes are open and whose ears can hear.

"Split a piece of wood and I am there, Lift a stone and you will find me" - Gospel of Thomas

"For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them" - Gospel of Matthew

Those two verses, particularly the second one, are literally true in my experience.

The second one, since I am a tantrist ... means that G-d is always there when you have mutual sex, and G-d is not against a 3-way.  My G-d is pro-sex.  In Ultra-Orthodox Judaism, the ideal time to have mutual sex is on the Sabbath ... sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, for you ignorant Gentiles.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 15, 2019, 06:38:47 PM
Yeah, especially since he's supposed to know absolutely everything.

Greek theologians are so .. Gentile.  A rabbi's turd has more insight.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

I wonder if Jesus speaks to people and tells them not to vaccinate their kids? Otherwise, I don't understand what anti-vaxers have to do with religious freedom:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndAeB9A5dgQ
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 15, 2019, 06:17:35 PM
It's funny that God/Jesus usually tells people to do stuff they already wanted to do in the first place. Like when he told Joseph Smith to marry more than one woman. Very convenient...

There is more than one Mormon Church.  Have you checked their magic underwear for burn marks?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on June 15, 2019, 08:00:36 PM
I wonder if Jesus speaks to people and tells them not to vaccinate their kids? Otherwise, I don't understand what anti-vaxers have to do with religious freedom:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndAeB9A5dgQ

Right now, it is mostly Ultra-Orthodox Jews who are objecting on religious grounds.  You have the usual solution ... gas them.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

I'll let God sort out their laundry problems - if they don't use Tide, it's not my fault! :-P
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman