Author Topic: Communist aka Democrat censorship?  (Read 1501 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2019, 06:01:47 PM »
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Free speech doesn't mandate that people give you a platform, or even that people tolerate what you have to say. It means that the government won't censor you. Corporations like YouTube can censor whoever they want. Even with the government, however, there are certain limitations to free speech, such as with hate speech, plagiarism, or slander/libel.

I will say, however, that the methods YouTube uses to reinforce its rules are absolute bullshit. Hell, their rules aren't even clear. They're vague as hell, making it pretty much open to interpretation who is breaking them.

Yes ... free speech = D party/Labor party dictatorship.  Prove me wrong.

With a newspaper, back in the day, they would take letters to the editor from the public.  They were under no obligation to publish (because they will be held liable).  Youtube isn't a curated newspaper.  Libs interpret law, not as written, but as benefits 2020 election (Cons do the same).

But in the US, in political discourse, slander doesn't apply.  That is only in private affairs.  It is presumed that one political party will lie about themselves and their opponents.  That they will smear their opponents with both true and false stories.  Happens every day.  But does that only apply to political parties, to elected politicians, or to the public at large acting in their political sovereignty?

Yes, the Constitution only protects you from the government.  It has nothing to do with protecting you from corporations.  But in an era of fascism (joining of corporations to government) there is no dividing line.  Corps are govs, govs are corps.  With computer algorithm banning, they are scott free of legal consequence.  You can't arrest an AI.  Facebook says ... don't blame me, that teenage Nazi, Tay, did it.

Either we can argue short of violence, or violence is inevitable.  Prove me wrong.
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Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2019, 06:06:00 PM »
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Yes ... free speech = D party/Labor party dictatorship.  Prove me wrong.

Yep. Democrats = Socialist Communist dictators. You're absolutely ridiculous.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2019, 06:07:45 PM »
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Yep. Democrats = Socialist Communist dictators. You're absolutely ridiculous.

But people like you say ... Republicans = Nazis.  Don't start a fire in a house of cards.

Keep it up, death for many people will result.  Once people believe incendiary rhetoric, they will take matters into their own hands.  Because the ends justify the means.  All you need to do is convince me that person X is baby Hitler/Stalin ... then I am free to kill them.

V for Vengeance from the Left or Right is a very bad idea.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2019, 06:12:24 PM »
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Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2019, 06:13:28 PM »
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But people like you say ... Republicans = Nazis.  Don't start a fire in a house of cards.

Keep it up, death for many people will result.  Once people believe incendiary rhetoric, they will take matters into their own hands.  Because the ends justify the means.  All you need to do is convince me that person X is baby Hitler/Stalin ... then I am free to kill them.

V for Vengeance from the Left or Right is a very bad idea.

No. Nazis are Republicans. There's a difference. All huskies are dogs, but not all dogs are huskies. Your false-equivalence fallacies are childish.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2019, 06:14:58 PM »
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No. Nazis are Republicans. There's a difference. All huskies are dogs, but not all dogs are huskies. Your false-equivalence fallacies are childish.

And Unbeliever will get banned, if he keeps up the paranoid Youtubes ... though not on my behalf.  Psychopathy has no place anywhere outside the padded cell.  If he isn't banned for such behavior, then this is just a branch website for Jacobin.

No, Nazis are Germans.  Stupid rabbit (Auschwitz are for real men).

On the pipeline ... I see no right of protest, just of assembly to redress grievances.  You do that at the State capital, not at a pipeline.  In fact, to mass assemble even for grievance, requires a prior license (crowd control costs etc).  Protestors are trespassers.  Arrest them.  Send them to Venezuela.  In fact, protesting, is an example of illicit abuse of freedom of speech.  That was true with 60s sit-ins in the Deans office.  I would have drafted the protestors, not arrested them.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #36 on: June 15, 2019, 06:51:26 AM »
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No. Nazis are Republicans. There's a difference. All huskies are dogs, but not all dogs are huskies. Your false-equivalence fallacies are childish.

Well, wait a minute here.  All Nazis might vote Republicans because both are conservative as all Communists might vote democratic because they aren't conservative.  But it doesn't mean that all republicans are Nazis.  I'm met a FEW who aren't...

And all atheists aren't Democrats either.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #37 on: June 15, 2019, 07:21:15 AM »
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Well, wait a minute here.  All Nazis might vote Republicans because both are conservative as all Communists might vote democratic because they aren't conservative.  But it doesn't mean that all republicans are Nazis.  I'm met a FEW who aren't...

And all atheists aren't Democrats either.

Sh ... you are breaking the hippy dippy narrative.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2019, 08:05:00 AM »
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Sh ... you are breaking the hippy dippy narrative.

Another content-filled detailed comment from you.  (coff, coff)...
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Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #39 on: June 15, 2019, 01:16:29 PM »
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Well, wait a minute here.  All Nazis might vote Republicans because both are conservative as all Communists might vote democratic because they aren't conservative.  But it doesn't mean that all republicans are Nazis.  I'm met a FEW who aren't...

And all atheists aren't Democrats either.

That's what I said...
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #40 on: June 15, 2019, 02:17:50 PM »
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That's what I said...

Happy...
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Offline Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2019, 04:52:05 PM »
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And all atheists aren't Democrats either.

We don't have democrats here in the UK.

Well we kinda do with liberal democrats but they are more like a talking tumor hanging on the side of the labor party

Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #42 on: June 15, 2019, 08:09:57 PM »
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We don't have democrats here in the UK.

Well we kinda do with liberal democrats but they are more like a talking tumor hanging on the side of the labor party

You have Labor and Lib-Dem.  Your Democrats are a multi-headed dog of Hades.  Ours is too, but they like to pretend their big-tent party covers all.

Again ... Liberal = destroy my own country, Conservative = destroy someone else's country.  Choose wisely.

Sorry, your "remoaners" have mutated into a fatal disease, like Confederates in the US in 1861.  They desperately wanted Queen Victoria to invade and destroy the Union, and she nearly did.  Somehow then the British Empire would have left the Confederacy free to do its own thing.  Not likely.

In then end ... you will have to de-citizen the "remoaners" and deport them to Paris/Berlin.  Or face endless terrorism.  A gulag for Labor/Lib-Dem might still be required as well. Enoch Powell was correct, but not for the right reasons.  There can never be peace between London/Paris or London/Berlin.
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Offline Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2019, 02:11:18 PM »
An interview between Sargon and BPS

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Intresting stuff.

One thing I find most interesting is when talking about the western culture as it stands now, how here in the west while we have abandoned organised religion as a main governance (unlike islam), that doesn't mean the very nature of what it is that creates that need for that ideology has gone. Social and political ideology have replaced that religious one now, the heavy handed political and social messages we have now comes from humanities own need for that system in place.

This really does break down the very fault within the human psyche itself, doesn't matter if we think we've progressed beyond one system of ideologues, if we're to weak willed anyway, we just get dragged into another set of rules and standards someone else creates to follow, just like religion before it.

This is why I no longer vote, seeing this kind of way of thinking now being the mainstream on either end of the political spectrum or one extreme to another. As an atheist I gave up wanting to follow any ideologue, so dunno why I should follow any social driven group think either.

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2019, 04:16:40 PM »
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An interview between Sargon and BPS

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Intresting stuff.

One thing I find most interesting is when talking about the western culture as it stands now, how here in the west while we have abandoned organised religion as a main governance (unlike islam), that doesn't mean the very nature of what it is that creates that need for that ideology has gone. Social and political ideology have replaced that religious one now, the heavy handed political and social messages we have now comes from humanities own need for that system in place.

This really does break down the very fault within the human psyche itself, doesn't matter if we think we've progressed beyond one system of ideologues, if we're to weak willed anyway, we just get dragged into another set of rules and standards someone else creates to follow, just like religion before it.

This is why I no longer vote, seeing this kind of way of thinking now being the mainstream on either end of the political spectrum or one extreme to another. As an atheist I gave up wanting to follow any ideologue, so dunno why I should follow any social driven group think either.

Oh boy. Sargon. A real meeting of the minds there. I'll pass.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

 

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