Author Topic: Communist aka Democrat censorship?  (Read 1517 times)

Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2019, 08:53:41 PM »
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I'll completely agree, Youtubes system is complete ass. But it's not their "new" system that's the problem, their algorithms have been completely garbage since they became a big corporation rather than a user-oriented platform. They want to make it as squeaky-clean as absolutely possible to make it the most bland, commercially friendly service it can be... and fuck the people who made them big in the first place.

and yeah, I've said on another thread, youtube is where it is today because the everyday joe fucking built it up to this level of platform, and the ones who now take ownership of it just piss over them. It is also sadly true in this environment they can get away with it. Problem with that is, it ends up creating a vacuum, and people flood to creating things like unregulated platforms where anything can be put on there, even seriously messed up shit.

This is where doing things in moderation should be key, a little censorship for the most screwed up stuff is fine, but people should get to express things like political opinions either side of stuff, or shlock or suggestive thing, without full on graphic stuff (we have pornhub for that)

Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2019, 08:54:51 PM »
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Difference is George Carlin was trying to be funny. Somehow I get the feeling this Black Pigeon guy wasn't joking around.

*shrug* but again, I don't see anything offensive in his content, anymore then something the young turks would put out. I mean I detest people like the young turks or vice and would avoid them, but I wouldn't want them taken off any platform, they have every right to post stuff on it, likewise with people like BPS or computing forever.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2019, 09:35:06 PM »
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His channel is back up, so...

More than likely it was taken down by an automated system due to flagging/phrases in the titles & descriptions, and then upon review they restored it. It happens.



You cant understand why a company might not be comfortable with an anti-feminist, anti-transexual, "race realist" posting on their service? Really?

I wouldn't allow any Democrat leaning or Labor leaning Commie post on my service either.  But then I don't own a website, nor do I own a vast platform for other people's websites.

If people hadn't complained massively, it would still be down.  I will be happy when all people who disagree with me, are deplatformed, doxxed, and fired from their jobs ... hmmm sounds like something is wrong with this plan, right?

There are legal consequences.  If it is a public service, then the provider of the service can't be sued for what is put on it (sued for libel etc).  But if you are a publisher, then you can be sued.  So do you want an Internet, where I can sue every post made by any Leftist ... for false advertising?  Because everything they believe is psychotic.

If Leftists want a medium that they control, and have to manage to avoid lawsuit ... then let them publish a ... newspaper.  Call it Pravda or some such.  And let the Right do the same.  Used to have a D and an R newspaper in every town, and you could sue them.  Because nothing appeared that hadn't been vetted by their management.  The free paper with simple pro bono news and garage sale notices ... wasn't held to that standard.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2019, 09:36:17 PM »
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hmm, so it is. Was gonna say, the new system they have in thats been banning thousands of accounts as being 'offensive', this is a broken automated system, I've not seen anything in his videos anyone should seriously classes as being worthy of banning unless it was based on nothing else but political bias.

Take all channels down every day.  Presumed guilt.  Then only for an appropriate donation to the Dem/Labor party and public humiliation, they will put it back up again.  Sounds like blackmail to me?
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2019, 09:37:56 PM »
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Difference is George Carlin was trying to be funny. Somehow I get the feeling this Black Pigeon guy wasn't joking around.

We aren't, we are going to kill and eat all political opponents ... and laugh at their families.

I would find it very funny if really evil things happen to really evil people.  My standards vary from yours.
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Offline Sal1981

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2019, 05:25:24 AM »
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You cant understand why a company might not be comfortable with an anti-feminist, anti-transexual, "race realist" posting on their service? Really?[/size]
No.

That's the thing about free speech, it also means allowing people you disagree with also having their say.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2019, 07:47:47 AM »
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No.

That's the thing about free speech, it also means allowing people you disagree with also having their say.

That's all fine and dandy, but that's not actually what free speech means... particularly in regards to corporations. If youtube was a government organization you would have a point... but they aren't.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2019, 08:11:19 AM »
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That's all fine and dandy, but that's not actually what free speech means... particularly in regards to corporations. If youtube was a government organization you would have a point... but they aren't.

Correct.  The correct response to Youtube abuse is to stop using their product.

On the other hand, Alphabet/Google/YouTube is a CIA operation.  As are Wikipedia and Facebook.
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Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2019, 09:06:12 AM »
YouTube is a business end of the day, they make profit and pay people who operate within it. Still, they should keep their own identity politics to themselves if what matters most to building their platform is viewership, so doing stuff like banning people with millions of subs just based on their political affiliations is a bad business move (in BPSs case he was brought back but others might not so lucky)
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2019, 10:15:44 AM »
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YouTube is a business end of the day, they make profit and pay people who operate within it. Still, they should keep their own identity politics to themselves if what matters most to building their platform is viewership, so doing stuff like banning people with millions of subs just based on their political affiliations is a bad business move (in BPSs case he was brought back but others might not so lucky)

I don't mind advocacy when properly labeled.  If a website is pro-Labor, then mark that clearly.  Laborites can go to town on that.  If a website is pro-Gay, then mark that clearly (particularly in regard to underage people online).  Gays can go to town on that.  Same as with business law regarding cakes.  A business that is open to the public cannot discriminate cakes against gays or straight IMHO.  They are a public place of business.  The board room of CNN is not.  Major stockholders should have access to the board room at CNN.  Same with wholesale business.   The public is not invited, they have to go to retail outlets.  But not on the basis of who they voted for.

But here it is ... if the Tube in London is only for Laborites, or the Red double decker busses are for French tourists only ... clearly mark that.  But the British taxpayer of all kinds, is paying directly or indirectly for the Tube.  It should be for all Brits.  Britain gets many tourists, not just the French.  It is obnoxious to ghetto the transportation system.

That is what the Left wants (and the Right also) ... they want segregation.  They want Jim Crow (with a Marxist face).  Fine, lets have separate water fountains for Left vs Right.  I will piss in both, when y'all aren't lookin'.  The giggle factor of politics today would be funny, if it wasn't so paranoid and psychotic.  Like Jews for Hitler.
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Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2019, 11:30:14 AM »
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That is what the Left wants (and the Right also) ... they want segregation.  They want Jim Crow (with a Marxist face).  Fine, lets have separate water fountains for Left vs Right.  I will piss in both, when y'all aren't lookin'.  The giggle factor of politics today would be funny, if it wasn't so paranoid and psychotic.  Like Jews for Hitler.

High five to that

Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2019, 12:16:15 PM »
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Offline Baruch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2019, 03:04:54 PM »
Yes, but what happens after the VoorTrek to outer Bitchute ... and the MSM doubles down, leaving a horses head in bed with the Bitchute management? (scene from Godfather)?  Will a digital Boer War result?  Aren't the SJWs just so many Zulus?
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Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2019, 03:58:07 PM »
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No.

That's the thing about free speech, it also means allowing people you disagree with also having their say.

Free speech doesn't mandate that people give you a platform, or even that people tolerate what you have to say. It means that the government won't censor you. Corporations like YouTube can censor whoever they want. Even with the government, however, there are certain limitations to free speech, such as with hate speech, plagiarism, or slander/libel.

I will say, however, that the methods YouTube uses to reinforce its rules are absolute bullshit. Hell, their rules aren't even clear. They're vague as hell, making it pretty much open to interpretation who is breaking them.
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Online Munch

Re: Communist aka Democrat censorship?
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2019, 04:27:17 PM »
It's like we said earlier, it's because it's automated, and that's just as messy as any political division
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