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Offline Baruch

General MEP Results ...
« on: May 26, 2019, 09:07:26 PM »
From Sky News ...

1. In general, pro-EU proportion in on British areas held steady.  But political fragmentation and realignment within pro-EU developed, as predicted.  The participation of countries in the EU, is gradually dissolving their sovereignty, in the sense that EU politics is replacing local politics, to the detriment of established parties.  This was particularly true in UK, where the highest level of anti-EU exists.

2. Established parties took it on the nose again, as in the local elections of two weeks ago.
Brexit 29 seats - political miracle, will ask to be part of EU side of Brexit process
Lib Dem 16 seats - major improvement similar to local elections (+15)
Labor 10 seats - major decline (-10) needs to reassess future
Green 7 seats - sig improvement (+4) parallel to continental strength
Conservative 4 seats - major decline (-15) needs to reassess future
SNP 3 seats - small improvement (+1) Celtic optimism
Plaid 1 seat - small improvement (+1) Celtic optimism
UKIP 0 seats - rejection (-1) UKIP head said before hand, he would resign as head of UKIP if this happened

So basically Brexit and Lib Dem picked up people leaving Conservative and Labor establishment

Plaid (Cymry) is a Welsh group, they did well in Wales against Labor
Change UK (who are they?) didn't even get a mention
« Last Edit: May 26, 2019, 09:11:45 PM by Baruch »
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Offline Cavebear

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2019, 09:32:52 PM »
From Sky News ...

1. In general, pro-EU proportion in on British areas held steady.  But political fragmentation and realignment within pro-EU developed, as predicted.  The participation of countries in the EU, is gradually dissolving their sovereignty, in the sense that EU politics is replacing local politics, to the detriment of established parties.  This was particularly true in UK, where the highest level of anti-EU exists.

2. Established parties took it on the nose again, as in the local elections of two weeks ago.
Brexit 29 seats - political miracle, will ask to be part of EU side of Brexit process
Lib Dem 16 seats - major improvement similar to local elections (+15)
Labor 10 seats - major decline (-10) needs to reassess future
Green 7 seats - sig improvement (+4) parallel to continental strength
Conservative 4 seats - major decline (-15) needs to reassess future
SNP 3 seats - small improvement (+1) Celtic optimism
Plaid 1 seat - small improvement (+1) Celtic optimism
UKIP 0 seats - rejection (-1) UKIP head said before hand, he would resign as head of UKIP if this happened

So basically Brexit and Lib Dem picked up people leaving Conservative and Labor establishment

Plaid (Cymry) is a Welsh group, they did well in Wales against Labor
Change UK (who are they?) didn't even get a mention

Brexit is now "buyers remorse" without the escape clause or the willingness to admit massive error...   LOL!

The best analogy I can think of offhand  (that didn't occur) is the pre-Civil War US North telling the South "fine, leave" and then wondering where they would get the cotton for their mills later...
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Offline Baruch

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2019, 10:00:23 PM »
Brexit is now "buyers remorse" without the escape clause or the willingness to admit massive error...   LOL!

The best analogy I can think of offhand  (that didn't occur) is the pre-Civil War US North telling the South "fine, leave" and then wondering where they would get the cotton for their mills later...


Very hard to compare USA 150 years ago vs Britain today.  Quite a stretch!

Almost all political activity is .... in error ;-)
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Offline Cavebear

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2019, 10:36:15 PM »

Very hard to compare USA 150 years ago vs Britain today.  Quite a stretch!

Almost all political activity is .... in error ;-)

Politics are politics though the ages.
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Offline Baruch

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2019, 11:59:15 PM »
Politics are politics though the ages.

Hence my support for King George III, even though he has been dead for 200 years.

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Offline Cavebear

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2019, 12:23:46 AM »
Hence my support for King George III, even though he has been dead for 200 years.

King George had boobs?  And nice one's too, BTW.  Well, no wonder he's still dead after 200 years.  Sorry, bad joke.

« Last Edit: May 31, 2019, 03:10:00 AM by Cavebear »
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Offline Baruch

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2019, 02:41:08 PM »
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ ła’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
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Don't do that.

Offline Cavebear

Re: General MEP Results ...
« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2019, 03:10:42 AM »
https://www.statista.com/chart/18172/turnout-by-country-at-the-european-elections/

Participation rates for all EU countries.

Good voting rates in some EU countries.  I wish it was higher here.
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