Author Topic: Introduction and background  (Read 2636 times)

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #15 on: June 09, 2019, 11:02:38 AM »
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Don't worry about Arik...he is on a middle eastern run of preachin about the power of meditation and such where people cooking rice over cow dung spend years being able to perfect such cool things as sticking a fish hook through their side with little effect or breaking a concrete block with yer head....immaterial stuff...instead of doing material stuff like working to help the children around them that are starving to death. If you let go of your material yearning you too can cook rice over cow dung and perfect such arts....if you get real good you may learn to regrow your rotten teeth or maybe help create more tears so you don't suffer from Dry Eye Syndrome......but not too much mind you...you may start to yearn for material stuff like a good meal, or a house with a roof over it.

We have a mediation room in the back to the right.....schedule your time on the sheet of paper so we know when to use the other bathroom.


I know Aitm and I do understand how you must feel after having such a rotten day.

You find your car that you parked in the street smashed and nobody bother to leave any message.
So sad my friend.
I wish I could help.


When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #16 on: June 09, 2019, 11:06:26 AM »
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How could anyone know what God likes or doesn't like, agrees with or does not agree with?


There is NO evidence that God started any religions but there is evidence that God run the universal show as seen on thousand of NDEs.
When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

Offline aitm

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #17 on: June 09, 2019, 12:02:25 PM »
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You find your car that you parked in the street smashed and nobody bother to leave any message.


self-projecting your misery on others much? I am sitting by my pool downing a cold one, watching the grandkid play with the dogs. Got filet mignon in the fridge for the grill tonight. I have insurance as well so even if someone smashed my car no worries....sides I also have a X-5 in the garage so I got a spare car. You should try that, you know...get a job...work for once....get insurance. That easy to do when you work to gain the material things that make life enjoyable. Too bad you can't enjoy life until you die---you hope-but hey....good luck with that poking yer side with a fish hook and all.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #18 on: June 09, 2019, 12:14:50 PM »
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Hi everyone. I grew up in the non-denominational Christian Church. It's very fundamentalist and pretty extreme. A lot of focus on death, power, sex, and suffering. About 2002, I started moving towards dystheism (the belief that God isn't totally good), and in 2016 moved to misotheism and maltheism (being against God and the belief that God is wholly or mostly evil). Later in 2016, I left the church and at the end of 2016 I went public with being atheist. Since then I've continued to post articles on a daily basis on my fb page on what bad things are going on in the theist world and what good things are happening in the world of everything else. I've met several times with the Louisville Atheist and Freethinkers. I'm here to gather good arguments and data I can use to counter theist nonsense.

Welcome, Joel 96...
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Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #19 on: June 09, 2019, 01:18:51 PM »
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There is NO evidence that God started any religions but there is evidence that God run the universal show as seen on thousand of NDEs.

There's no evidence that God started any religions, but there is no evidence that God existed before religions, yet here you are believing unfounded claims anyway. And stop talking about NDEs. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #20 on: June 09, 2019, 01:32:19 PM »
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There is NO evidence that God started any religions but there is evidence that God run the universal show as seen on thousand of NDEs.

NDE...  "No Deity Experience?  ;)
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2019, 01:49:06 PM »
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self-projecting your misery on others much? I am sitting by my pool downing a cold one, watching the grandkid play with the dogs. Got filet mignon in the fridge for the grill tonight. I have insurance as well so even if someone smashed my car no worries....sides I also have a X-5 in the garage so I got a spare car. You should try that, you know...get a job...work for once....get insurance. That easy to do when you work to gain the material things that make life enjoyable. Too bad you can't enjoy life until you die---you hope-but hey....good luck with that poking yer side with a fish hook and all.

How wonderfully übermensch your life is.  A lot like Cavebear.  None of you other than Unbeliever ... should admit to any Left politics.  Champaign socialism is so ...
Zampa xiquihto.  Amo nimitzcuamachilia.
Say it again.  I don't understand you.

Offline Baruch

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #22 on: June 09, 2019, 01:50:29 PM »
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There's no evidence that God started any religions, but there is no evidence that God existed before religions, yet here you are believing unfounded claims anyway. And stop talking about NDEs. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

There is no evidence for human humility either ;-)
Zampa xiquihto.  Amo nimitzcuamachilia.
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Offline aitm

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2019, 02:26:29 PM »
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How wonderfully übermensch your life is.  A lot like Cavebear.  None of you other than Unbeliever ... should admit to any Left politics.  Champaign socialism is so ...

Have no idea how cavebear or you or anyone else "here" lives.  I have, like most using legal means, climbed the rugged ladder to a reasonable position of comfort. Using the same simple lesson my grandfather passed on the his son and him to me. You don't need anything particularly special to be successful: Be there everyday and just outwork the person they put next to you.

I broke six figures quite a few years back, I am enjoying the benefits of out working the people who were put next to me. I still work though frankly my feet hurt and were it not for the reality that those accustomed to working relatively harder than many seem to die quicker once they retire, I would be retirement on the radar. Sedentary life is not for us...none the less, I don't really don't work that hard anymore. Still put in 5-6 miles on the feet everyday but am ready to go part time and spend more time in the garden and perhaps start buying fixer-uppers and remodeling.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2019, 03:59:02 PM »
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How wonderfully übermensch your life is.  A lot like Cavebear.  None of you other than Unbeliever ... should admit to any Left politics.  Champaign socialism is so ...

Baruch, I'm basically a Teddy Roosevelt turn-of-the-last-century Progressive who thinks the world could be better.  And a better place for ME to live in, and both at the same time.  I've lived in the same house for 32 years, drive a 13 year old car, and have most of the furniture my parents gave me when I moved in.  I have all I need.  I make all my own meals from scratch because I enjoy it. 

I turned 69 last month.  I'm getting old.  But I still do everything myself and expect to until the neighbors smell bad smells coming from the house.  I hope the cats don't have to eat me.

I drink a cheap wine (actually "Twisted Zin' is a decent meal drink) and smoke Boston Butt and chicken on the deck for most of my meals with a large tossed salad and fresh veggies.  I have learned to make a very good shrimp eggroll. 

I accumulated money because I never spent it, LOL!  And none of it is in the house or readily accessible, so I don't worry.  My siblings (if they outlive me) are going to be VERY happy.  And if not them, their children.  And my cats, whichever are around at the time...  And American Atheists and Consumer Reports. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2019, 04:05:56 PM »
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There is no evidence for human humility either ;-)

As best I can tell from science articles (and acknowledging that the only proof is dying) most NDEs are the result of brain confusion from drugs and some temporary bodily paralysis.  Its not really that unusual, but some people interpret NDEs that way.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #26 on: June 09, 2019, 04:15:23 PM »
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Have no idea how cavebear or you or anyone else "here" lives.  I have, like most using legal means, climbed the rugged ladder to a reasonable position of comfort. Using the same simple lesson my grandfather passed on the his son and him to me. You don't need anything particularly special to be successful: Be there everyday and just outwork the person they put next to you.

I broke six figures quite a few years back, I am enjoying the benefits of out working the people who were put next to me. I still work though frankly my feet hurt and were it not for the reality that those accustomed to working relatively harder than many seem to die quicker once they retire, I would be retirement on the radar. Sedentary life is not for us...none the less, I don't really don't work that hard anymore. Still put in 5-6 miles on the feet everyday but am ready to go part time and spend more time in the garden and perhaps start buying fixer-uppers and remodeling.

I understand about the workplace, AITM, but sometimes the competion isn't all that fierce in the smaller offices.  My Dad told me "better to be a small frog in a large pond than a large frog in a small pond".  I beg to differ.  The large frog in the small pond gets more moths.  I was the small frog in a large pond once and I found that it was mostly controlled by lawyers and very talented snakes. 

I followed 'The Peter Principle' and retired a happy satisfied large frog in a small pond at the right skill level..
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline aitm

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #27 on: June 09, 2019, 06:10:58 PM »
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I followed 'The Peter Principle' and retired a happy satisfied large frog in a small pond at the right skill level..

I have been a fan of the Peter Principle for nearly 30 years. I find in necessary to tell my "superiors" about the Peter Principle whenever they suggest I should take a larger role in the company. I am content where I am. I have damn near complete autonomy on my projects and can also come and go at my leisure. Why would I want to go to a position that I may not have the same success when I have one where I am considered the best and the money is only another 5-7 grand?

Nope, quite content here.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Offline Cavebear

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #28 on: June 09, 2019, 07:18:19 PM »
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I have been a fan of the Peter Principle for nearly 30 years. I find in necessary to tell my "superiors" about the Peter Principle whenever they suggest I should take a larger role in the company. I am content where I am. I have damn near complete autonomy on my projects and can also come and go at my leisure. Why would I want to go to a position that I may not have the same success when I have one where I am considered the best and the money is only another 5-7 grand?

Nope, quite content here.

Sounds like you were in the same situation I was.  I was the only one responsible for the voice telecommunications program.  It was confusing to Management, I did it well, never caused problems, and only brought solutions to any problem.  So they never bothered me.  I never COULD get that assistant though.  Autonomy is great if you can handle the workload...

They replaced me with 3 people when I retired, LOL!  A former co-worker sent me the new office chart.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Introduction and background
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2019, 08:00:51 AM »
So ... congrats on not being born in Somalia.  Not saying you are one, but you do sound like one ...

But nobody here knows the word "champagne" or "socialist" or "champaign socialist".  That was my point.  Not how well you have done for yourselves, that is bourgeois.

"a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle."

Champagne socialists are among the most disgusting political segment around, in terms of corruption and hypocrisy.  No, it isn't the money.  It is what people let money do to them. As in "he won the lotto and destroyed his life".

"In Marxist philosophy, the bourgeoisie is the social class that came to own the means of production during modern industrialization and whose societal concerns are the value of property and the preservation of capital to ensure the perpetuation of their economic supremacy in society."

Unbeliever is the only legitimate socialist posting here.  The rest of you are liberal as in faux-socialist.
Zampa xiquihto.  Amo nimitzcuamachilia.
Say it again.  I don't understand you.

 

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