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Started by Arik, May 08, 2019, 08:42:34 AM

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Unbeliever

Quote from: Arik on July 22, 2019, 10:28:48 AM

Yoga is all about a balance among body, mind and inner consciousness.
It is like a carriage pull by 3 horses.
It is by feeding and looking after all of them properly that the carriage will have a good chance to go straight and fast.
This is also my idea but again some people may have different ways to get there.
Plato had a similar analogy, he considered a human to have a tripartite soul: that of the bodily appetites, that of the emotions, and that of the intellect. The driver of the coach was the intellect, and the horses were the emotions and the bodily appetites, each trying to pull in different directions.
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Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 22, 2019, 01:32:35 PM
Plato had a similar analogy, he considered a human to have a tripartite soul: that of the bodily appetites, that of the emotions, and that of the intellect. The driver of the coach was the intellect, and the horses were the emotions and the bodily appetites, each trying to pull in different directions.

Same as Krishna's lecture to Arjuna in the Gita.  A coincidence?  I think not.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Arik

Quote from: Hydra009 on July 22, 2019, 10:39:03 AM
So...if a single person claims to see Bigfoot and all you have to go on is that person's say so, that's ancedotal evidence, an extremely weak and unreliable form of evidence.

But if multiple people say they saw Bigfoot and all you have to go on is their say so, that's not ancedotal evidence and is a very strong and very reliable form of evidence.

Makes sense.


You are talking, acting and judging like a total fool.

Obviously you haven't read any of the NDEs and even if you did then you play the dishonest part.
The facts are very clear.

In most cases the person in question saw from above his dead body and all the medical staff in action.
Not only that but the person could even read their mind.
Once back in his-her body the person described what he-she saw to the amazement to all people present which confirmed that they really were doing that and thinking that.

This is pure and simple evidence Mister.

One more evidence (among the thousand in question).

An other person once out his body saw a nurse that drop a baby.
The baby hurt himself but the nurse in fear of getting in trouble pretend that nothing happen and put the baby back in his cot.
Once back into his body the person who had his NDE report the matter to the doctors which realized that that baby was really injured.

How all this could ever take place unless the consciousness of these people really left their dead bodies?

You are free to keep on being a total bigot-fool or change course and wake up to the reality.

Up to you Mister.

When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

Arik

Quote from: Unbeliever on July 22, 2019, 01:32:35 PM
Plato had a similar analogy, he considered a human to have a tripartite soul: that of the bodily appetites, that of the emotions, and that of the intellect. The driver of the coach was the intellect, and the horses were the emotions and the bodily appetites, each trying to pull in different directions.


Our free will is not one way good.
With the good also come the bad like everything in this universal dimension.

The positive always go hand in hand with the negative so people who don't get this point risk to go around and around in circle getting nowhere that is why it is important to balance our life in such a way that the horses don't drive our coach down the ditch.
When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

aitm

You guys have given this whack-job 14 pages.....sheeesh....and still nothing of real substance....just more and more whacky ideas of granduer.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Arik

Quote from: aitm on July 23, 2019, 09:36:40 AM
You guys have given this whack-job 14 pages.....sheeesh....and still nothing of real substance....just more and more whacky ideas of granduer.


When you realize that the goal of life is full of splendor and grandeur then why shouldn't people keep a positive attitude?
When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

Sal1981

Quote from: Arik on July 23, 2019, 10:53:35 AM

When you realize that the goal of life is full of splendor and grandeur then why shouldn't people keep a positive attitude?
... that's not very realistic. It's also full of misery and despair. I'd rather know the world as it really is, than entertain some fantasy.

Baruch

Quote from: Arik on July 23, 2019, 10:53:35 AM

When you realize that the goal of life is full of splendor and grandeur then why shouldn't people keep a positive attitude?

Power of positive thinking they are not.  Neither am I.  But I soldier on.  My theology though is very much splendor and grandeur ... though not the kind that people admire (coronation of a British monarch).  The yawn of a satisfied baby ... is one of the greatest events.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Arik

Quote from: Sal1981 on July 23, 2019, 06:51:45 PM
... that's not very realistic. It's also full of misery and despair. I'd rather know the world as it really is, than entertain some fantasy.


I did say......the goal of life Sal not this universal dimension.

This universal dimension is tough enough for the simple reason that the positive and the negative always go hand in hand so progress is impossible.

Spirituality on the other hand is totally free of the negative part and it is here that real progress is possible and the goal of life is achievable.

Even the toughest and hardened Atheist and materialist will one day come to this conclusion because there is no other nice place to go within this universe unless of course they decided to hang on in this suffering dimension for eternity which would be total madness.
When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

Arik

Quote from: Baruch on July 23, 2019, 06:54:06 PM
Power of positive thinking they are not.  Neither am I.  But I soldier on.  My theology though is very much splendor and grandeur ... though not the kind that people admire (coronation of a British monarch).  The yawn of a satisfied baby ... is one of the greatest events.

New targets come as you go along Baruch.
When you realize that what you are doing is getting you nowhere then new ideas and targets pop up in a mysterious way.

It happen to me and will happen to everybody.
The main thing is to pick up the tip as it pop up rather than let it go to the dogs.

Good luck with that brother.
When you were born, you were crying and everyone around you was smiling. Live your life so that when you die, you’re the one smiling and everyone around you is crying. Tulsi Das

aitm

Dream on. The goal of life is mere hope of. The vastness of this world is misery. Kill and survive, kill or be killed, kill in order to eat, killed to be eaten, die and be eaten. Anyone who thinks this was the "design" is a fucking idiot. This is merely the course as it is now and has been, and may very well always be. But there are instances that things can change, be changed and accept change. The problem of course is that the people who recognize this possibility, cannot convince those intent of maintaining the current system, and those who cannot escape the current systems, do not have the luxury of time and safe haven to be able to hope that the system can be changed, let alone be given the opportunity of trying.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Baruch

Quote from: aitm on July 24, 2019, 03:19:39 PM
Dream on. The goal of life is mere hope of. The vastness of this world is misery. Kill and survive, kill or be killed, kill in order to eat, killed to be eaten, die and be eaten. Anyone who thinks this was the "design" is a fucking idiot. This is merely the course as it is now and has been, and may very well always be. But there are instances that things can change, be changed and accept change. The problem of course is that the people who recognize this possibility, cannot convince those intent of maintaining the current system, and those who cannot escape the current systems, do not have the luxury of time and safe haven to be able to hope that the system can be changed, let alone be given the opportunity of trying.

Exactly why I don't support liberals.  Crazy bastards.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

aitm

you always have been one for concise thought.
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Baruch

Quote from: aitm on July 24, 2019, 07:41:19 PM
you always have been one for concise thought.

I also don't support conservatives.  Crazy bastards.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Hydra009

Quote from: Arik on July 23, 2019, 08:52:33 AM

You are talking, acting and judging like a total fool.

Obviously you haven't read any of the NDEs and even if you did then you play the dishonest part.
The facts are very clear.

In most cases the person in question saw from above his dead body and all the medical staff in action.
Not only that but the person could even read their mind.
Once back in his-her body the person described what he-she saw to the amazement to all people present which confirmed that they really were doing that and thinking that.

This is pure and simple evidence Mister.

One more evidence (among the thousand in question).

An other person once out his body saw a nurse that drop a baby.
The baby hurt himself but the nurse in fear of getting in trouble pretend that nothing happen and put the baby back in his cot.
Once back into his body the person who had his NDE report the matter to the doctors which realized that that baby was really injured.

How all this could ever take place unless the consciousness of these people really left their dead bodies?

You are free to keep on being a total bigot-fool or change course and wake up to the reality.

Up to you Mister.
You typed an awful lot of words just to say Nuh uh and restate the same fallacious/weak argument.