### Author Topic: How many GODS do you have?  (Read 13170 times)

#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1185 on: August 21, 2019, 02:04:19 PM »
Yeah, like getting a room...

I don't think Joe is gay ...
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#### aileron

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1186 on: August 21, 2019, 02:27:58 PM »
It's not completely kludgy, there is a physical explanation.

Agreed. I was being semi-facetious. Perhaps a better term would be "fine-tuning". Fine-tuning can be okay if we have good reason to do the tuning, as in this case we probably do. In other cases such as adding more and more motions to the Ptolemaic model without understanding why there should be more and more, it's a death cry.
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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1187 on: August 21, 2019, 07:05:04 PM »
Agreed. I was being semi-facetious. Perhaps a better term would be "fine-tuning". Fine-tuning can be okay if we have good reason to do the tuning, as in this case we probably do. In other cases such as adding more and more motions to the Ptolemaic model without understanding why there should be more and more, it's a death cry.

Epicycles are maligned.  They are actually Fourier analysis hundreds of years before their time.  Any motion, orbital or not, can be analyzed into a superposition of sine waves.  It was shown in another post by Unbeliever, that any motion, if you allow different centers with each component, can be broken into such epicycles.

Fine tuning is simply adding more epicycles to get a better approximation.
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#### Cavebear

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1188 on: August 24, 2019, 04:52:34 AM »
That would have been nice.

Isn't this one?
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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1189 on: August 24, 2019, 08:34:27 AM »
Isn't this one?

He meant, down in the official adjudicated debate section (mostly unused).
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#### Cavebear

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1190 on: August 24, 2019, 07:32:07 PM »
He meant, down in the official adjudicated debate section (mostly unused).

I only see "Show unread posts since last visit. and Show new replies to your posts."

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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1191 on: August 24, 2019, 08:04:23 PM »
I only see "Show unread posts since last visit. and Show new replies to your posts."

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#### Unbeliever

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1192 on: August 24, 2019, 08:27:10 PM »
Has man ever invented a worse monster than the God of the Bible?
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#### Cavebear

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1193 on: August 24, 2019, 08:34:00 PM »
Has man ever invented a worse monster than the God of the Bible?

Oh certainly.  The older religions were much worse.  And the numerous deities needed more sacrifices for placation.   Children were always good sacrificial fodder.  They come; they go.  And most were going to die before adulthood anyway.
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#### aileron

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1194 on: August 24, 2019, 08:37:26 PM »
Oh certainly.  The older religions were much worse.

In general, the older the religion the crueler the gods.

Old Testament God is an angry cloud itching to slaughter whole cities over the horrific sin of mixed fiber clothing.
New Testament God is a savior giving life in paradise who needs nothing of us but accepting of a free gift.

Being a Christian requires much more cognitive dissonance than I can muster.
Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the War Room! -- President Merkin Muffley

My mom was a religious fundamentalist. Plus, she didn't have a mouth. It's an unusual combination. -- Bender Bending Rodriguez

#### Cavebear

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1195 on: August 24, 2019, 08:49:28 PM »
In general, the older the religion the crueler the gods.

Old Testament God is an angry cloud itching to slaughter whole cities over the horrific sin of mixed fiber clothing.
New Testament God is a savior giving life in paradise who needs nothing of us but accepting of a free gift.

Being a Christian requires much more cognitive dissonance than I can muster.

I consider that all theisms require cognitive dissonance.
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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1196 on: August 24, 2019, 10:33:35 PM »
Has man ever invented a worse monster than the God of the Bible?

I like Kali-Ma ...

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luu shalmaata luu baltβaata
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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1197 on: August 24, 2019, 10:34:21 PM »
I consider that all theisms require cognitive dissonance.

Progress requires managed cognitive dissonance, or no alternatives would ever be entertained.
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luu shalmaata luu baltβaata
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#### Cavebear

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1198 on: August 24, 2019, 11:46:33 PM »
Progress requires managed cognitive dissonance, or no alternatives would ever be entertained.

No, that's what actually makes for BAD political and social decisions.  I avoid it myself.
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#### Baruch

##### Re: How many GODS do you have?
« Reply #1199 on: August 25, 2019, 01:05:43 AM »