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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #690 on: Today at 05:22:59 AM »
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Yes. Our brains don't know what to do with a complete lack if stimulation. If you're in a soundproof room, you'll start hearing your own heartbeat. If you're in a dimly lit room and stare at someone (including your reflection) it will look as if their face is morphing. I don't know why the brain behaves this way. It doesn't seem advantageous at all.

When the brain lacks stimulation, all sorts of off things occur in it.
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Online Baruch

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #691 on: Today at 08:33:29 AM »
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When the brain lacks stimulation, all sorts of off things occur in it.

And when stimulated, the brain provides a simulation of what is sensed.  The sight in your head is a stitch up based on external data, it isn't the data itself.
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Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #692 on: Today at 02:01:24 PM »
Yeah, it's amazing how the brain creates a "map" of the external, sensed world, almost like a 3+1 dimensional mirror of reality. But without sensory input, it becomes like a fun-house mirror, distorting reality in strange ways.

The human brain is the most interesting thing in the known universe, except for the universe itself, which generated human brains.
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A.A. Allen,  to Marjoe Gortner, quoted in James A Haught, Covering the Bible Belt II: A Freethinker's Testimony:
"When you can turn people on their head and shake them and no money falls out, then you know God's saying, "Move on, son.""

Online Baruch

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #693 on: Today at 03:42:50 PM »
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Yeah, it's amazing how the brain creates a "map" of the external, sensed world, almost like a 3+1 dimensional mirror of reality. But without sensory input, it becomes like a fun-house mirror, distorting reality in strange ways.

The human brain is the most interesting thing in the known universe, except for the universe itself, which generated human brains.

"It is a riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma" ... Winston Churchill (in other words, a dialectic not a deduction)

This is why I say, for ordinary conversation involving people, if it doesn't start from psychology, it didn't start at all.

Because of convergent evolution, the eye of the octopus is a lot like the eye of the human, but I bet the processing and subsequent cogitation is different.
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Online Cavebear

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #694 on: Today at 05:30:54 PM »
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Yeah, it's amazing how the brain creates a "map" of the external, sensed world, almost like a 3+1 dimensional mirror of reality. But without sensory input, it becomes like a fun-house mirror, distorting reality in strange ways.

The human brain is the most interesting thing in the known universe, except for the universe itself, which generated human brains.

I've read that intelligence is the way the universe understands itself.  Note that I did not say that myself.
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Online Baruch

Re: Present Evidence Here II
« Reply #695 on: Today at 08:03:16 PM »
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I've read that intelligence is the way the universe understands itself.  Note that I did not say that myself.

Correct.  I could say that.  You did not say that.  It would violate your materialist metaphysics.  For you the atoms are almost eternal, they whirl around (see pre-Socratic philosophers).  How non-living atoms live, how non-mental atoms cogitate, is a mystery.

Or are atoms, a concept developed and used by humans?  Are humans prior to atoms?  Not if you are Plato.  Per Plato, to see people as people is ignorant caveman stuff.  To see people as atoms, that is woke.
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