Donald Trump: Golf Cheat

[Unbeliever]

Politics and honesty don't work.  So what may work in good golf, won't work in good politics.  You have to be woke to realize that anyone in politics is practicing Machiavelli on you.

Hell, Machiavelli was a patzer compared to the current crop of politicians!

[PickelledEggs]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHEHA3-9b9k

[Unbeliever]

Cosmo Kramer is chaos with or without rules! :-D

[Baruch]

As a student of The Prince and The Discourses, I can tell you Trump has never read either. While Machiavelli said a prince was foolish to actually maintain honor, it was of the utmost importance to keep up its appearance. In other words, Trump isn't some mastermind using secret level 17 strategic chess moves, he's a moron that doesn't understand anything Machiavelli taught.

He's also a pathetic golf cheat.

I didn't say specifically "Trump" ... but "Hillary" would match up quite well.  The American PM May.

[Cavebear]

I didn't say specifically "Trump" ... but "Hillary" would match up quite well.  The American PM May.

Actually, I doubt Hillary would cheat at golf any more than I would.  And that Trump would consider you nuts for not.  I saw a report on TV this past week that said Trump played 60+ games and only posted 20.  One would be forgiven for expecting those were his best 20 scores.  He does play well enough.  Professionals who have played with him say he is about 10 handicap, which is certainly not bad.  But he claims a 2 handicap.  Well, of course he would. 

I have a memory of my Dad playing golf.  He was a scratch golfer (0 handicap) at one point.  He would hit a drive that started out low, rose slightly, and dropped gently onto the center of the fairway almost every time.  He was amazing.  He could shoot 70 on hard courses.  I never broke 90 on the easy ones...  *SIGH*

On the other hand, he was obsessed with golf and I did a lot of things.  In any challenge of 10 sports, I would have won.  But he was good at golf.  And you know why he played?  Because in college, Mom played golf and she told him that she wouldn't date a man who couldn't play golf.  He had never played before.  He learned.

Damn, that's "love".

[Unbeliever]

Didn't Kim Jong Il get 11 holes in one the very first time he played golf? Even Trump can't claim that! :-D

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I didn't say specifically "Trump" ... but "Hillary" would match up quite well.  The American PM May.

You don't have to specify Trump. This entire thread is about Donald Trump being a shameless golf cheat.

[Baruch]

You don't have to specify Trump. This entire thread is about Donald Trump being a shameless golf cheat.

Such an important subject.  Guess people are tired talking about his hair ;-)

[Unbeliever]

That's not hair, it's a dead alien shape shifter.

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Such an important subject.  Guess people are tired talking about his hair ;-)

What can I say? I find Donald's dishonesty endlessly amusing. :-p

[Baruch]

What can I say? I find Donald's dishonesty endlessly amusing. :-p

I am not a crook - Nixon ... I really laughed a lot back then ;-(

[trdsf]

I was taught to play golf by a rules-fanatic.  My mother.  And Dad.  I was taught not to cheat at anything.  And partly as a consequence, I tended to play games it was really hard to cheat at (just so I could be sure my opponents wern't cheating).  It became "second nature" to me to play games where cheating was difficult.  Chess, Cribbage, Stratego, Monopoly, Air Hockey, Bowling.  Its why I have problems with internet games.  I search for cheats and watch for them.  So many people cheat.  Why do they play?

But golf can be cheated easily.  I had a golf friend how would casually tap his ball out from behind a tree and I would call him on it (which didn't make me popular).  He would say "But I can't hit it from there" and I would reply, "then tap it out and count the stroke.  And he hated that because it upped his score.  My view is that, if you keep score, you aren't allowed to cheat.

I'm a stickler for such things.

Likewise, I was taught by my grandfather whoâ€"meaning no disrespect for my own parents or other grandparentsâ€"was without question the finest and fairest and most fundamentally honest man I ever had the privilege to know.  To this day, it wouldn't even begin to dawn on me to employs a 'foot wedge' or other tactic, and even though I don't believe in an afterlife I couldn't countenance Grandpa's disappointment if he were looking down, even in a fantasy.

If you have to swing the club, you have to count the stroke, period, end of statement.  Golf is a game of honor... so it's no surprise the Orange Disaster Area further displays that he has none.

[Cavebear]

If you are Trump, honesty is not really important.  It is how you are viewed by others and I don't mean people who know the reality of him but the impression he gives.  I bet Trump is deciding how he can beat Kim Jong-un's claim of 11 holes-in-one in a single round. 

And trust me, Trump is really thinking about it.

[Baruch]

If you are Trump, honesty is not really important.  It is how you are viewed by others and I don't mean people who know the reality of him but the impression he gives.  I bet Trump is deciding how he can beat Kim Jong-un's claim of 11 holes-in-one in a single round. 

And trust me, Trump is really thinking about it.

We can always turn the volume up to 11 ;-)  Use rock-n-roll instead of ping-pong for diplomacy.

[Cavebear]

We can always turn the volume up to 11 ;-)  Use rock-n-roll instead of ping-pong for diplomacy.

The volume trick only works in proximity.  Seen Kim Jong-un anywhere near a US speaker system lately?