American Men Having Record Low Amounts of Sex

Started by Shiranu, March 30, 2019, 11:12:55 PM

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Shiranu

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/03/29/share-americans-not-having-sex-has-reached-record-high/?utm_term=.14336166112e


QuoteFor most of the past three decades, twentysomething men and women reported similar rates of sexlessness. But that's changed in recent years. Since 2008, the share of men younger than 30 reporting no sex has nearly tripled, to 28 percent. That's a much steeper increase than the 8 percentage point increase reported among their female peers.

A large part of this is economic; as debt increases and employment rates dip, men increasingly cannot afford to have a relationship or in many cases are forced to live at home... which has obvious implications for bringing women home.


There are a few other factors... technology obviously has a large effect on this as well, but I feel like that is oversold; it's not like women don't play video games or watch porn and yet there hasn't been such a drastic decrease in women having sex. I also don't figure that the #MeToo movement has much (or anything) to do with it either, because the women who would use that as a reason not to sleep with certain men wouldn't have slept with those guys anyways.


While I think sex is way too... commercialized? Misrepresented and overhyped for the wrong reasons?..., the deeper problem to me is not that men aren't getting laid but rather they are having much less and less human interaction. Between that and the economic issues I mentioned above, it's no wonder our depression rate and suicide rate has been quite steadily increasing for years now, which causes a bit of a feedback loop between the two issues.



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drunkenshoe

There is also something like this. https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/living-single/201811/7-reasons-why-young-people-are-having-less-sex

I think there are lots of reasons. From my perspective, so many things have changed regarding personal relationships, I wouldn't know where to begin with. Also, may be the gender wars bullshit, self help madness has a bit of an effect on this too.

The only positive outcome would be a decrease in world population I guess. But it is not good.

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Mr.Obvious

So wait, men are having less sex, but not women?


Shit, seems like they figured out they really don't need us.
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Baruch

#3
Correct.  The myth of Heracles and Hippolyta, queen of the Amazons ... is the original cuck story.  Even more fierce is Clytemnestra and Medea.  Feral women, like feral men, are a disaster.  I rather like how Odysseus dealt with the suiters of his wife, and the maids that slept with the suiters.

Would I date a feminist woman today vs 40 years ago?  No way Jose.  In fact, I looked into a mail order overseas bride even back then.  I did marry a Boomer feminist.  The results were mixed.

When we say "having less sex" that is relative to the licentious "pickup culture" that earlier feminism allowed.  The earlier feminists liked sex, but the new feminists are puritan hypocrites.  I avoided "pickup culture" for practical safety reasons.  But there is nothing new under the Sun King ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QaBYLAOaSY

King Louis XIV's younger brother was a regular cross-dresser at court.  Empress Elizabeth of Russia, she had balls were the couples had to dress opposite.  The Empress liked to portray a Russian sailor.  The French cross-dresser Chevalier d'Éon, a diplomatic spy who went full time femme, spied for France at her court.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzpvBBgY_YA

Older boomer feminists at least make some sense ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv7LvRhvgNI

But this is from the POV of the academy, where things are more radical than on the street.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

aitm

I haven't read the articles, but let me take a couple swings at it. Guys who can get laid pretty much whenever they want, still get laid pretty much whenever they want. The guys who need to work at it are spending less time working on it and more time involved in useless "gizmo games". The guys who really need to work at it, just don't bother as a relationship is much harder than the "gizmo games" and their other partners in gizmo games reciprocate in a quasi "goodbuddyreplacementforsexbybeinggoodbuddies".......so there.

Girls are fucking who ever the hell is still spending time walking around in real life and not with their head in a "gizmo game"
A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Blackleaf

Quote from: aitm on March 31, 2019, 08:29:55 AM
I haven't read the articles, but let me take a couple swings at it. Guys who can get laid pretty much whenever they want, still get laid pretty much whenever they want. The guys who need to work at it are spending less time working on it and more time involved in useless "gizmo games". The guys who really need to work at it, just don't bother as a relationship is much harder than the "gizmo games" and their other partners in gizmo games reciprocate in a quasi "goodbuddyreplacementforsexbybeinggoodbuddies".......so there.

Girls are fucking who ever the hell is still spending time walking around in real life and not with their head in a "gizmo game"

What is a "gizmo game?"
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Blackleaf

I doubt I represent the general public, since I was homeschooled as a kid, but yeah. This has been an issue for me. As a result of my upbringing and lack of socialization outside of churches and family, I've always been socially awkward. I'm good at picking up body language, but I'm not good at keeping a conversation. I'm sure being an atheist doesn't help my chances either. I'm not going to say women don't like nice guys, because that isn't true, and I'm not an incel who thinks he's owed something. But I have been described as "too nice," which I think means they think I'm not assertive enough; that I'm a people pleaser. Now at age 29, I've only had two girlfriends my entire life, and I'm pretty sure the first one just wanted to deflower me because she knew I was a good Christian boy. Both left after a few months, and I've pretty much given up trying. The only way I'm getting laid is if I pay for it. Knowing my luck, she'd be a cop, so... Just gonna stay home and play Skyrim.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

aitm

A humans desire to live is exceeded only by their willingness to die for another. Even god cannot equal this magnificent sacrifice. No god has the right to judge them.-first tenant of the Panotheust

Blackleaf

"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Baruch

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

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PickelledEggs

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:05:32 AM
So wait, men are having less sex, but not women?


Shit, seems like they figured out they really don't need us.
I swear... my girlfriend is hornier than I am. And that is saying something.

Hydra009

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on March 31, 2019, 04:05:32 AMSo wait, men are having less sex, but not women?
That's what I was wondering.  Maybe we're more like elephant seals than commonly thought.

Baruch

Quote from: Hydra009 on April 01, 2019, 05:47:07 PM
That's what I was wondering.  Maybe we're more like elephant seals than commonly thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CE7Srq7gXI

Elephant seals are successful animals because their flippers prevent using "game boy".
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

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