Muellers report released

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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/us/politics/mueller-report.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

[Baruch]

Partisan as any other political witch hunt.  Trump is a morlock ... but then Hillary is a witch.  Shall we resume the witch hunting of 1645?  That was a time of paranoid virtue signaling.  And the witch hunters ... were frauds.  Eventually, once people higher up the social ladder were accused of witchcraft ... the authorities stopped tunring a blind eye to the scalawags who executed mentally ill old women.

[Cavebear]

No, the Mueller Report has not actually been released.  A 4 page summary of the report has been released by Attorney General Barr as he interprets it.  The accuracy of that summary can be questioned, as can Barr's claim that only he is allowed to interpret Mueller's Report. 

It is up to Congress to decide what to do the the facts Mueller has presented in his report.

[Baruch]

No, the Mueller Report has not actually been released.  A 4 page summary of the report has been released by Attorney General Barr as he interprets it.  The accuracy of that summary can be questioned, as can Barr's claim that only he is allowed to interpret Mueller's Report. 

It is up to Congress to decide what to do the the facts Mueller has presented in his report.

They did, under the previous Republican House ;-)

The current attorney general can't be trusted, anymore than the prior Dem attorney generals.  But the redacted parts, Congress won't have access (GB won't allow it).  Also the millions? of pages of testimony won't be accessible.  Material still relevant to a grand jury, won't be public.  The indictments and all official papers of course will be available to all members of Congress.  Unless you want to claim that Mueller is a Republican/Russian/traitor.  They can ask Mueller why he didn't think the indictment didn't rise to the level of an indictment.  They asked Comey why he didn't recommend that the felony, that Hillary committed with her email server, didn't rise to the level of an indictment (ah ... it is an attorney general who does that, not the FBI ... a Dem attorney general determined that).

[Cavebear]

They did, under the previous Republican House ;-)

The current attorney general can't be trusted, anymore than the prior Dem attorney generals.  But the redacted parts, Congress won't have access (GB won't allow it).  Also the millions? of pages of testimony won't be accessible.  Material still relevant to a grand jury, won't be public.  The indictments and all official papers of course will be available to all members of Congress.  Unless you want to claim that Mueller is a Republican/Russian/traitor.  They can ask Mueller why he didn't think the indictment didn't rise to the level of an indictment.  They asked Comey why he didn't recommend that the felony, that Hillary committed with her email server, didn't rise to the level of an indictment (ah ... it is an attorney general who does that, not the FBI ... a Dem attorney general determined that).

I hardly know where to begin to reply.  Very Trumpian, as all you say is rather vague and suggestive.

So let's deconstruct your statements one by one...

1.  "They did, under the previous Republican House". 

They did not under the previous House because the Republican House Of Representatives refused to consider the question of whether the Trump campaign dealt with the Russian Government.

2.  "The current attorney general can't be trusted, anymore than the prior Dem attorney generals".

Your broad-based claim that neither Republican not Democratic Attorney Generals is insulting to a democracy AND some have been entirely honest and fair.  And I will even say that Barr should be assumed fair unless proven otherwise by events.

3.  "But the redacted parts, Congress won't have access (GB won't allow it)"

I'm not sure what "GB" is. It might be obvious in full words.  But you may not realize what information-gathering power the Legislative Branch has.  They will get all information they have the collective will to demand.  THe question is what they will demand.

4.  "Unless you want to claim that Mueller is a Republican/Russian/traitor".

That seems to be a new line promoted on Fox.  Now that Mueller has not overtly suggested indicting Trump, he is becoming a hero to Fox again (as he once was for his legalistic standards).

5.  "They asked Comey why he didn't recommend that the felony, that Hillary committed with her email server, didn't rise to the level of an indictment"

I find it amusing that Republicans try to conflate Hillary Clinton's mere personal use of emails for Government business with proven accusations of Trump&Family dealing with the Russian Government to affect the election outcome, directly asking them for help, sending family members and representatives to talk to Russian Government members about the election, and more than a dozen of Trump's associates confessing to crimes of conspiracy and illegal business dealings they all say were ordered by Trump himself.

Not even in the same category of "crime".

6.  To put it as briefly as possible,  the Republicans remain incensed that Hillary Clinton stored her emails on a secure computer with no apparent consequences, but that Trump and his family dealt in business immediately before, during, and after his election with Russians and other dictators around the world does not bother you and most Republicans.

SHAME!

[Baruch]

No, you Dems should just .. go around assassinating people you don't like?  Worked in 1865.

The "didn't exonerate" isn't legalese .. it is an editorial regarding the description of the yet unreleased redacted report.  I haven't been exonerated of being a Russian spy, and neither have you.

Shame!

[Unbeliever]

Al Capone could not be indicted on any charges other than tax evasion. Why do you think Trump won't release his tax returns?

[Baruch]

Al Capone could not be indicted on any charges other than tax evasion. Why do you think Trump won't release his tax returns?

True ... but that is because Al Capone was innocent ;-)

Today, under that same rule, every American is an organized crime figure.  You can give power to the government, but not take it back.

But some here, regard all businessmen as class enemies.  Such "european view" folks (in the US anyway) should be viewed as enemies of the State, sans culottes.

[Unbeliever]

This may become known as "the exoneration exaggeration."

Trump claims he was exonerated, but Barr's letter specifically said that he was not exonerated. If Barr did mischaracterize Mueller's report, then you can be damn sure no one will ever see the actual report.

[Baruch]

This may become known as "the exoneration exaggeration."

Trump claims he was exonerated, but Barr's letter specifically said that he was not exonerated. If Barr did mischaracterize Mueller's report, then you can be damn sure no one will ever see the actual report.

Only the Deep State will see the report, because they machinated everything since Jan 2016, all to their liking, and still do.

[Cavebear]

Only the Deep State will see the report, because they machinated everything since Jan 2016, all to their liking, and still do.

"ONLY" since Jan 2016?  Are you saying that you DIDN'T believe in "The Deep State" before that?

[Baruch]

"ONLY" since Jan 2016?  Are you saying that you DIDN'T believe in "The Deep State" before that?

Of course, but are you claiming that Allen Dulles and J Edgar Hoover planned the 2016 election? ;-)

[Cavebear]

Of course, but are you claiming that Allen Dulles and J Edgar Hoover planned the 2016 election? ;-)

I will let your words speak for themselves...

[Baruch]

Al Capone could not be indicted on any charges other than tax evasion. Why do you think Trump won't release his tax returns?

That is because J Edgar Hoover was a trannie.  The G men could have simply shot Capone, and never faced any consequences, like they did with Dillinger.

[Baruch]

I will let your words speak for themselves...

So you give me a date then.  General George Washington was our first "spymaster".