Author Topic: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack  (Read 949 times)

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2019, 12:48:28 PM »
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Terrorist attack, plain and simple.

Yes, it is a terrorist attack. It is a terrorist attack, whoever-whatever is behind it. That's the problem with 'real' or false flag attacks, they are all terrorist attacks. Innocent people die. Outcome is the same for us ordinary people. 

I just find it odd, that's all. An Australian man attacking mosques in New Zealand. Writing a loong manifesto about everything all around the globe, going back to 16th century wars. Does that really  sound usual to you? 
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Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2019, 12:54:55 PM »
He shouted "Subscribe to Pewdiepie." In case you weren't aware, the media is freaking out about Pewdiepie and talking about how a Swedish video game streamer is "alt-right" or some stupid shit. Dude was every single SPLC cliche about the "alt-right" rolled into one. If anyone finds the shooter's persona believable then maybe you're ready to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour.
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2019, 01:11:45 PM »
He could have shouted 'Ann Coulter for Peace Nobel!' for all I care. There are thousands of Pewdiepies on the youtube alone. We are living through an era which people are expected to make racial slurs or derog comments on some minority, culture, ethnicity or gender or whatever the fuck. Most of the young generation wouldn't even notice them if they didn't. It's a specifically scripted new age gig to make money, become famous.   

I personally find this attack odd, because exactly like the vlogger clown you mentioned above, this piece of shit looks too designed to me. It's not a claim, it is an impression I got.       
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Offline Sal1981

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2019, 01:18:47 PM »
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Yes, it is a terrorist attack. It is a terrorist attack, whoever-whatever is behind it. That's the problem with 'real' or false flag attacks, they are all terrorist attacks. Innocent people die. Outcome is the same for us ordinary people. 

I just find it odd, that's all. An Australian man attacking mosques in New Zealand. Writing a loong manifesto about everything all around the globe, going back to 16th century wars. Does that really  sound usual to you? 
I read excerpts from his manifesto, I think it was someone cold and calculated that wants to escalate a literal culture war between what he described as Europeans against Muslim 'invaders'.

Others say he's insane, I think not. This was cold, calculated planning to trying to get people to choose sides in a civil war between identitarians. I agree with Tim Pool on this one; don't choose sides, we're all in this together.

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Him saying "subscribe to Pewdiepie" is a direct attempt to try to get people to foment into sides, a Us vs Them kinda mentality. He knew full well Pewdiepie would condemn this terrorist attack. But that's just it, he wants division and sectarianism, he wants people to churn the machine into a civil war between factions. He wants the news to condemn Felix by association.

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Just heard news of the devastating reports from New Zealand Christchurch.
I feel absolutely sickened having my name uttered by this person.
My heart and thoughts go out to the victims, families and everyone affected by this tragedy.
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool" --- Richard P. Feynman

Offline LoriPinkAngel

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2019, 02:03:04 PM »
It is too bad that the manifesto was made public.  It is giving that freak and his views the attention he wanted.

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2019, 02:15:06 PM »
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We 'new atheists' have a reputation for being militant, but make no mistake  we didn't start this war. If you want to place blame put it on the the religious zealots who have been poisoning the minds of the  young for a long long time."
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Offline drunkenshoe

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2019, 02:36:22 PM »
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I read excerpts from his manifesto, I think it was someone cold and calculated that wants to escalate a literal culture war between what he described as Europeans against Muslim 'invaders'.

Others say he's insane, I think not. This was cold, calculated planning to trying to get people to choose sides in a civil war between identitarians. I agree with Tim Pool on this one; don't choose sides, we're all in this together.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Him saying "subscribe to Pewdiepie" is a direct attempt to try to get people to foment into sides, a Us vs Them kinda mentality. He knew full well Pewdiepie would condemn this terrorist attack. But that's just it, he wants division and sectarianism, he wants people to churn the machine into a civil war between factions. He wants the news to condemn Felix by association.

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Oh I agree he is perfectly sane. I don't believe any of them are insane anyway. Pewdiepie has already gave a response of the sort I guess. I saw something like that. 





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Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2019, 03:34:02 PM »
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It is too bad that the manifesto was made public.  It is giving that freak and his views the attention he wanted.

In this case, I think it's fine. Makes his intentions clear. Hopefully, anyone who would have considered attacking in retaliation otherwise will see his manifesto and decide not to give him what he wanted.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2019, 04:04:43 PM »
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I read excerpts from his manifesto, I think it was someone cold and calculated that wants to escalate a literal culture war between what he described as Europeans against Muslim 'invaders'.

Others say he's insane, I think not. This was cold, calculated planning to trying to get people to choose sides in a civil war between identitarians. I agree with Tim Pool on this one; don't choose sides, we're all in this together.

Sorry but you are not allowed to view spoiler contents.

Him saying "subscribe to Pewdiepie" is a direct attempt to try to get people to foment into sides, a Us vs Them kinda mentality. He knew full well Pewdiepie would condemn this terrorist attack. But that's just it, he wants division and sectarianism, he wants people to churn the machine into a civil war between factions. He wants the news to condemn Felix by association.

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A Civil War requires violence on both sides, but only one side resorts to violence. Yet Tim Pool thinks the Left share equal blame in this "Civil War." No, the answer to violence from the Right is not for the Left give in to their demands. If the Right wants a war, that's on them.

I also find it funny how quick those on the Right are to accuse (often falsely) a terrorist of being a Muslim, but when we have terrorists like these who are in no uncertain terms white supremacists, they want to dissociate themselves from it. When it's the former, it is an excuse to push for anti-Muslim policies, but in the latter they say, "Don't use this as an excuse to push policies against guns!" Typical Right-Wing hypocrisy.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2019, 04:33:23 PM »
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In this case, I think it's fine. Makes his intentions clear. Hopefully, anyone who would have considered attacking in retaliation otherwise will see his manifesto and decide not to give him what he wanted.

Not sure about that anymore. I think the world has passed that phase.
'the wise man does not seek enlightenment, he waits for it. so while ı was waiting, it occurred to me that seeking perplexity might be more fun.’ - lu-tze

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2019, 04:58:00 PM »
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Not sure about that anymore. I think the world has passed that phase.

We hear this kind of rhetoric all the time. Hearing it come from a terrorist doesn't make it look any better, but it might give pause to anyone who might have agreed with him before this.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville

Offline Hydra009

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2019, 06:42:22 PM »


Literally blaming the victims.

Online Shiranu

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2019, 06:49:40 PM »
Holy fuck.

That is literally the most fucked up use of, "I'm not racist, but..." I have ever seen. And it's from a Senator.



Shit, even American politicians are hesitant to go both that far-right wing and that far Christian dominionistic.
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Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2019, 06:55:39 PM »
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Shit, even American politicians are hesitant to go both that far-right wing and that far Christian dominionistic.

Well, so far, anyway, but we aren't done yet.
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Offline Baruch

Re: 40 Dead in New Zealand Mosque Terrorist Attack
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2019, 07:17:56 PM »
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Terrorist attack, plain and simple.

Nations are the greatest terror of all.
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