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Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« on: March 13, 2019, 04:43:25 PM »
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Thomas John, the Seatbelt Psychic was caught cheating and was exposed by Susan Gerbic and Mark Edward in Operation Pizza Roll, as published in the New York Times. Enjoy this short documentary of how Thomas John was busted doing a hot reading and why we should all be skeptical of psychic mediums. Thomas John was caught gleaning information from the sitters' Facebook accounts prior to the show and he got caught red-handed. And this comes right on the tail of John Oliver's brilliant coverage exposing psychic scams.




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Psychics are just another brand of con artist, charlatans who are smart enough to scam money out of vulnerable people. Just like the mediums that Houdini exposed.ο»Ώ He worked for years busting those thieves.



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The phrase "freedom of religion" means "no freedom from religion."

Offline Baruch

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2019, 07:41:39 PM »
At least in the late 19th century, people still believed in "something", even if it was false ;-)

Did you ever see the historical expose, how the whole "spiritualism" aka "seance" business was started by two teen sisters in upstate NY, who could snap their toes (not their fingers)?

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Tarot cards were originally used for a European card game, not for oracles.

Still, I did enjoy "Ghost" with Whoopi Goldberg:

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The most meaningful movie of this type, for me ... Field Of Dreams ;-)
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Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2019, 07:47:30 PM »
Yeah, I've heard of the Fox sisters, must've been the precursors of Fox News.
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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2019, 07:48:45 PM »
The movie Ghost had good music, too, like 'Enery the Eight I am! LOL
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Offline Baruch

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2019, 07:55:04 PM »
My grandmother's generation practiced divination with regular playing cards.  And table tapping (think Oija, but larger, and in yes/no format).

My tarot cards were a gift from my grandmother ... they didn't "speak" to her as they do to others.  Basically it is a creative probe of the sub-conscious.  There could be mediums who do something like that, based on internal clues (aka channeling), but I don't know it.  Spontaneous writing and spontaneous speech have been noted in history.  Pentecostalism is something like that.
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Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2019, 08:13:00 PM »
Good. I hate psychics

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2019, 08:20:41 PM »
Remember Jean Dixon? What a scam she had going!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2019, 10:18:40 AM »
Well, I never had any need for disproof.  The entire idea is idiotic from the get-go...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2019, 01:20:16 PM »
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Well, I never had any need for disproof.  The entire idea is idiotic from the get-go...

But you put all your investments into little pieces of paper backed by financial people?  Gullible much?
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Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2019, 03:45:30 PM »
Peter Popoff was a "faith healer" who was exposed publicly in the 1980s and continues deceiving people to this day.  It's certainly unfortunate that these type of fraudulent schemes exist which deceive people and reward fraudsters for their trickery.  Unfortunately, getting caught doesn't ensure they will lose their capability to continue deceiving vulnerable and desperate people.  Fraudsters are remarkably resilient and capable.

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2019, 10:43:28 PM »
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Peter Popoff was a "faith healer" who was exposed publicly in the 1980s and continues deceiving people to this day.  It's certainly unfortunate that these type of fraudulent schemes exist which deceive people and reward fraudsters for their trickery.  Unfortunately, getting caught doesn't ensure they will lose their capability to continue deceiving vulnerable and desperate people.  Fraudsters are remarkably resilient and capable.
It seems that fraudulent, huckster, snake oil salesman, minister, priest, religion are all one and the same.  Religion in general, deals with and uses lies.  But they are lies that appeal to the emotions and not reason, which is why it is impossible to bring the idiot believer to the light--reasoning is of the devil.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2019, 11:02:28 PM »
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It seems that fraudulent, huckster, snake oil salesman, minister, priest, religion are all one and the same.  Religion in general, deals with and uses lies.  But they are lies that appeal to the emotions and not reason, which is why it is impossible to bring the idiot believer to the light--reasoning is of the devil.

I think there is a significant difference between intentional fraudsters and those who may spread misinformation without malicious intent.  One is intentionally predatory.
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Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2019, 12:00:05 AM »
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I think there is a significant difference between intentional fraudsters and those who may spread misinformation without malicious intent.  One is intentionally predatory.
And religions are intentionally predatory.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2019, 12:22:52 AM »
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And religions are intentionally predatory.

Some, perhaps.

Offline Cavebear

Re: Thomas John (The Seatbelt Psychic) - Busted for Cheating!
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2019, 12:41:45 AM »
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But you put all your investments into little pieces of paper backed by financial people?  Gullible much?

If my little pieces of paper fail, we have much more serious problems and I'll be hiding in the mountains trapping squirrels for food.  But I don't expect that will happen in my lifetime.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

 

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