"They are mentally ill"

[Draconic Aiur]

I blame it on Jordan Peterson, Jonathan Haidt, Gad Saad, Dinesh De Sousa, etc. but most of all, Trump.
Because he stands between you, leftist and the promised land of “Democratic Socialism”.

Fear not, it is only delayed a little, you shall have your wish. Hope you will like it.

Yet our government is democratic and representative and our economy is socialist/capitalist. Your point is invalid.

[Baruch]

I blame it on Jordan Peterson, Jonathan Haidt, Gad Saad, Dinesh De Sousa, etc. but most of all, Trump.
Because he stands between you, leftist and the promised land of “Democratic Socialism”.

Fear not, it is only delayed a little, you shall have your wish. Hope you will like it.

It will be just like George McGovern won in 1972, and it was free ganja for everyone.

[Cavebear]

I have posted many times in the past that 1-1.5% of all humanity are born with both male and female sex organs in various forms of dominance. If physical androgyny is a given than psychological must be as well. If they want to "fix" themselves what the fuck do I care? And if some person has some hell bent crazy ass idea of changing their sex because it's Thursday....I don't care either.

There are some physical anomalies (and what you are is what you are), but I also think that some peoples's brains are "wired" differently from the majority (and from what evolution might want) and that is not very harmful to the species.  So, I accept that and let them be.  No harm and "live and let be".

[pr126]

There are some physical anomalies (and what you are is what you are), but I also think that some peoples's brains are "wired" differently from the majority (and from what evolution might want) and that is not very harmful to the species.  So, I accept that and let them be.  No harm and "live and let be".

They are the exception, not the norm. And they are medical, not political.
The left wants it to become the norm, and then it is harmful to society.
Think of the child abuse (suggesting) convincing the underaged that the are the opposite sex from which they are born by misguided parents or educators with an agenda.

“Transphobe” is a neology created for a purpose.
Just like the dozens of incomprehensible pronouns created to confuse society.
This is a culture war.

“No harm done” or not to care is a license to continue and expand the culture war.
When will it be harmful?

[your_dude_james]

The problem, as said, with the trans gender movement, is anyone who simply feels like they want to be a new gender or identity, gets given praise for it, even if all they've done is the same thing a five year olds done in playing dress up.

My old friend, who was proper trans, female to male, that kind of transition takes guts to do, and I'll always respect anyone who does so.

Do you think suicide is heroic?

[Munch]

Do you think suicide is heroic?

would only consider it in rare circumstances, such as if a guy or girl sacrificed themselves to save a load of people, like a pilot crashing their plane into a a highjacked plane aimed for a skyscrapper, or a bomb disposal expert risking setting off a bomb.
Suicide is tragic in most cases of people just giving up though, so i don't count it as heroic just the sad state of the human condition.

[Baruch]

would only consider it in rare circumstances, such as if a guy or girl sacrificed themselves to save a load of people, like a pilot crashing their plane into a a highjacked plane aimed for a skyscrapper, or a bomb disposal expert risking setting off a bomb.
Suicide is tragic in most cases of people just giving up though, so i don't count it as heroic just the sad state of the human condition.

Taking risks, particularly when it is your job and your choice to do a job ... isn't suicide.  Working with high voltage electricity is something some do, if they are trained and follow proper safeguards, I don't consider it attempted suicide.  And if something unforeseen happens, and the worker dies, then it isn't suicide.  This is also true of the more extreme situation of fireman, policeman and military.

The other circumstance of ... I saw something happen, I am just a random person, and I took an effort to stop it (say a bank robbery) ... might be foolish, but is a rare enough business to be an exception to any rule.  Most people will never be faced with that choice.

But what your_dude_james meant, was the tendency of closeted transgenders to attempt suicide.  What Munch was talking about, is the bill in GB, for people to declare themselves, without medical backing, to be transgender.

[Cavebear]

Do you think suicide is heroic?

I don't consider suicide to be "heroic" except as previously mentioned to save others (and a personal decision on the spot and reactive to a situation).  And I regret reading about suicides from depression or grief, etc.  But I favor the RIGHT to end one's life when one is metally able to make such a decision.

I am fully in favor of medical assistance even when all one feels is "I'm just too tired of existing" regardless of the reason.  Sickness, pain, ennui, all are OK with we.

It's a question of who owns our lives.  Is it US or is it The State?  I don't think it is The State.

And here is something that bothers me about this question.  The lobbyists that fight the hardest about assisted (meaning calm death) are the insurance companies.  They hate the idea that someone might decide to die before their actuarial tables say they will.  So, adjust the actuarial tables, DUH!

[Baruch]

The law says no.  If you want to suicide, then that proves you are mentally incompetent.  Catch22.