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Started by pr126, February 23, 2019, 11:26:54 AM

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pr126

#18
Jussie Smollett wasn't thinking.

He should have called his local KKK branch.

They would have done the job free, gratis, he would have kept his job and the $3500.

Next time, call the professionals.

I hear that the KKK has ditched the white robe and hod and changed to MAGA hats.
More fashionable.








Blackleaf

Quote from: Draconic Aiur on February 23, 2019, 05:00:49 PM
It's not okay to oppress a people just because their skin is white or some of their ancestors had the oppressor ancestors as slaves. Their is a movement that hates on European Americans and says that it's okay to oppress white people because their white people.

4chan users gave all the proof anyone can need with it's "Okay to be White", because a simple truthful message tended to get vastly negative reactions from indigenous people.

If you don't give the credit for a point well made you are just as "losing side" biased as the rest of those radical left PC backers.

That's his brilliant point? That black people can be racist too? Well, duh. Does that mean that black people in America have "privilege?" Give me a break. This is the typical braindead tactic the Right always uses. The Left say there's an issue, and they respond with, "No u." That's not an argument. It's projection.
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Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
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Poison Tree

Quote from: Munch on February 23, 2019, 09:21:32 PM
Jussie Smollett sure had no problem unitizing black privilege. The irony is 20 years ago their wouldn't even be an argument for it, but todays pc culture has made it that those considered a minority have more of a right to get away with something then non-minority.
Did Smollett get away with something? Wasn't he arrested and charged?
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Baruch

Quote from: Poison Tree on February 24, 2019, 02:40:12 AM
Did Smollett get away with something? Wasn't he arrested and charged?

Yes.  But the expectation in the current environment, is that his penalty will be a lot less, because of his skin color.  We must await that result.

He had committed similar things in the past.  He is known to have a ... drug problem.
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Don't do that.

Draconic Aiur

Quote from: Blackleaf on February 24, 2019, 02:19:51 AM
That's his brilliant point? That black people can be racist too? Well, duh. Does that mean that black people in America have "privilege?" Give me a break. This is the typical braindead tactic the Right always uses. The Left say there's an issue, and they respond with, "No u." That's not an argument. It's projection.

It is a privilege. I mean seriously, these days if a white person does anything to an indigenous person its a hate crime, but if its a indigenous person who does it, it is praised.  There may be some cases where that isn't the case but most times it is. What do think Pr doesn't have a point? Just because he takes it a bit far, or you want to protect your notions that diversity can't have negative effects and indigenous people or people that aren't white straight male who's comfortable with a penis not have privilege.

Perhaps you don't know the quote "you should check your privilege".

Munch

#23
Quote from: Poison Tree on February 24, 2019, 02:40:12 AM
Did Smollett get away with something? Wasn't he arrested and charged?

He has been yes, but from the word go of his claim of being attacked people assumed it was true without a hint of scepticism. He was convinced he'd get away with the stunt he pulled because people would automatically believe him based on him being a black man

The reason why it's black privilege, the reason why it we can call it that, is because today's pc culture has made it that someone will automatically be innocent based purely on their skin colour, something this case proved.

This should be a lesson to anyone who automatically believed his story, you should always approach anything like this with scepticism, always.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Sylar

I fried some brain cells watching this video. And I pity anyone who willingly chooses to watch such uninformed, unintelligent, and unnuanced bullshit.

1) Blackpeoplemeet.com

Do gay dating websites discriminate against straight people?
Do MILF dating websites discriminate against young unmarried women, or any woman who is not a mum?
Do bondage dating websites discriminate against those who prefer good ol' missionary?
Do Christian dating websites discriminate against non-Christians?
Does this website -- atheistforums -- discriminate against theists?

You get the point.

It's not surprising there's a website for black people to meet. Blacks represent around 12.6% of the US population, compared to whites who represent 73.3%. Some states have upwards of 90% whites. The dating pool is much smaller for blacks than whites.

Furthermore, OkCupid, one of the largest dating platforms, compiles data on its members' matching history.
https://theblog.okcupid.com/race-and-attraction-2009-2014-107dcbb4f060

From the data*, we notice that white men receive the most responses from potential mates, white women prefer white men over non-white men, and black women as well as Asian, black, and Latino men are disadvantaged compared to their white counterparts.

*Please beware that the data does not account for socioeconomic status, so the conclusions drawn are incomplete.

As to why these preferences are observed, OkCupid co-founder writes:
"Beauty is a cultural idea as much as a physical one, and the standard is of course set by the dominant culture. I believe that’s what you see in the data here. One interesting thing about OkCupid’s interface is that we allow people to select more than one race, so you can actually look at people who’ve combined "white" with another racial description. Adding "whiteness" always helps your rating! In fact it goes a long way towards undoing any bias against you."
https://www.gwern.net/docs/psychology/okcupid/raceandattraction20092014.html

The point I am making is that while a website such as blackpeoplemeet may be needed to help black people find love or lust, a similar website targeting white people is not needed because, essentially, every dating platform is dominated by white people.

As to why a website such as "whitepeoplemeet" may be considered racist, it has to do with historical exclusion of blacks, as well as the negative views towards interracial dating that was held by majority of whites at a certain point in time. Such history can't be ignored. Having said that, there's nothing inherently racist about either website, but one race is not associated with complete domination over another, so you can see why the public reaction may vary.

Trying to claim liberals are racist because of that is quite a reach and reeks of desperation and whataboutism. This pundit lives in a bubble.

2) Cal State LA "segregated" housing

As I suspected, misinformation by rightwing tabloids.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/09/07/csula-segregated-housing

Segregation is illegal at state and federal level. The fact that this state school suffered no consequences or litigation should at least give you some pause.

3) Historically black colleges

Historically black colleges are black in name only. Anyone can attend regardless of race. Many of them have white majority in the student bodies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historically_black_colleges_and_universities#Racial_diversity_post-2000

4) Affirmative action

Blatant mischaracterization of what affirmative action in the US entails.
We don't have racial or gender quotas in the US. No unqualified minority is taking the place of a more qualified white person. Merit remains the name of the game (along with connections), however, institutions are encouraged to seek our qualified minorities that have historically been discriminated against.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action_in_the_United_States

Liberal California has banned affirmative action in the state (Prop 209).

5) Black Panther/black superheroes

Rofl. More desperation.
As if there are no white superheroes, role models, etc.

6) Black lives matter & other movements

Rightwing tabloid propaganda. More desperation and false equivalence.

BLM is neither violent, nor exclusionary. Nor do its activists think white lives do not matter. Whites have participated alongside blacks in the marches.

Conservative media likes to smear BLM, but not a single peep from them about the real problem, real threat, in this country: rightwing domestic terrorism. FBI spends a great deal of time investigating rightwing terrorists, much much more than they do investigating "leftwing terrorists." We do not have a leftwing terrorism problem in this country, we have a rightwing terrorism problem.
https://www.csis.org/analysis/rise-far-right-extremism-united-states

The number of hate groups has increased by a third in the last four years. Majority of hate groups are driven by white supremacist ideology. Hate crimes rose by 17% in 2017 alone (following election of alleged rapist Donald Trump). There were just over 8,800 victims of hate crimes in 2017. Among transgendered individuals, 29 people were killed in 2018. The numbers may actually be worse, as there is no official department tasked with tracking hate groups or hate crimes. Police are not required to report hate crimes.

Furthermore, multiple individuals have targeted elected officials for domestic terrorist attacks. 22 Democrats and journalists were on a kill list of coast guard lieutenant. Bombs have been mailed and stockpiles of weapons with kill lists have been found. What's remarkable is that these names on the kills lists come straight out of alleged rapist Trump's tweets and conservative media headlines. The same people alleged rapist Trump and conservative media attack incessantly and endlessly are the very same people whose names ended up on kill lists. It is not an exaggeration to say that there are people actively trying to murder CNN employees and Democrats in this country.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/hate-crime/2017/tables/table-1.xls
https://www.hrc.org/resources/violence-against-the-transgender-community-in-2018

The "left" has no Rush Limbaugh, no Alex Jones, and no Steve Bannon.
Facts do not need hype men.

7) Black magazines

Lol, what a reach.

8) Stereotypes

White men can't jump, black men are thugs and gangbangers, Asians can't drive, Jews are stingy, Muslims are terrorists (this one is a favorite of thread starter).

Stereotypes aren't a liberal invention, and there's plenty to go around. Liberals are the first to denounce stereotypes, while conservative media repeats them endlessly.

9) Black history month

White history month is called "US history" and you learn that in school. It's ridiculous that in a country that's 73.3% white, you have someone asking why there is no white history month. As if whites were brought here against their will and their history hidden or ignored.

For decades, history of African Americans was either downplayed, ignored, or forgotten. Hence, black history month (though its creator did not intend for it to become an annual feat), where awareness about history of African Americans and their contribution to American society can be highlighted.

It's not the only month with a theme, around here. I believe we have a month for autism awareness, a month for breast cancer awareness, etc. What, no month for ED awareness? Clearly sexist against men!

And with that, I conclude.
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." --Oscar Wilde

Sylar

Quote from: pr126 on February 23, 2019, 11:36:08 PM
Just as an aside, the KKK were Democrats.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MP4bQNLXNw

The KKK were (are) Southerners and their ideology is white supremacy.
Hardly liberal and hardly "left" but sure keep spreading that propaganda. Perhaps you think if you tell the lie long enough, it becomes truth.
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." --Oscar Wilde

Sylar

Quote from: Munch on February 24, 2019, 06:26:53 AM
He has been yes, but from the word go of his claim of being attacked people assumed it was true without a hint of scepticism. He was convinced he'd get away with the stunt he pulled because people would automatically believe him based on him being a black man

The reason why it's black privilege, the reason why it we can call it that, is because today's pc culture has made it that someone will automatically be innocent based purely on their skin colour, something this case proved.

This should be a lesson to anyone who automatically believed his story, you should always approach anything like this with scepticism, always.

Hate crimes are on the rise:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/us/hate-crimes-fbi-2017.html

One condemned liar does not change the facts, despite propaganda spread by rightwing tabloids.
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." --Oscar Wilde

Munch

#27
Quote from: Sylar on February 24, 2019, 07:50:44 AM
Hate crimes are on the rise:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/13/us/hate-crimes-fbi-2017.html

One condemned liar does not change the facts, despite propaganda spread by rightwing tabloids.

And yet, the left wing never apply the same scrutiny and objective criticism to their own demographic as they expect the right wingers to do to their own side. You do understand those statistics don't account for all the black against white hate crimes right? That would spoil the agenda.

And claiming one side is worse then the other is just ignoring history

Least anyone can do is apply scepticism to any political ideology, even having the balls to look at your own the same way.

This is why I don't vote anymore.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

Mega-trend ... 20 years ago the goal was "color blind" and we congratulated ourselves on that.  But that doesn't give women absolute dictatorship, colored people dictatorship, gay dictatorship.  Because a "color blind" system doesn't feed the political imperative.  Given the percentages, a lot of women aren't feminist, and ethnic minorities are ... minorities, as are gays.  That is why these folks will support non-democratic forms of government, particularly as communist cadre ... because the cadre knows the truth, the proletariat must be led, because they exists in a state of alienation and false consciousness.

Just kill the Left?  But this is a particular personality type on the psychopathic spectrum disorder.
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Don't do that.

Blackleaf

"The KKK were Democrats." lol. That stupid argument again. Oh, yeah. I'm sure the Democrats and Republicans haven't changed their platforms at all in the last 100 years. The South changed from Democrat majority to Republican for no reason whatsoever. The Democrats today don't really care about minorities. It's the white supremacist Southern Christian men who really want what's best for the "thug" minorities. lol
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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