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Online Shiranu

China's #MeToo Movement
« on: February 15, 2019, 08:23:54 PM »

While the video starts off with a short snip about Saudi Arabia, the majority of the episode revolves around Chinese censorship of their population, and a large part of that story is about the #MeToo movement. If you want to skip to that part, it's around 15:40.

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It's interesting to get a glimpse into Chinese social issues, because the Chinese have done a particularly good job of making sure both others and their own population are not granted access to information. It's also a potential warning of how governments, or even corporations, could begin to use the internet here in the West to manipulate the population.
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 01:17:55 AM »
Already happening.  That is why during the Obama period, the law was changed to make propaganda against the citizens be totally legal.  Not just against opponents.  Because per the oath of office, we defend against all enemies, both foreign and DOMESTIC.

In a totalitarian system, whether EU, GB, US, China ... all things serve the State, so the Internet has to be a tool of the State, just like newspapers (Pravda) used to be.  Technical improvements leads to more technical means of control of the population.  And means has to be controlled, just as in the Soviet Union, it was illegal to possess a typewriter (samizdat).  With a typewriter, you could be an unauthorized (aka fake news) journalist ... just as bloggers in Youtube are today.  Authoritarianism does what it is.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2019, 03:42:56 PM »
Everytime I hear about how horrible the US is, I am reminded by how much worse it is elsewhere.

Not that we should ignore these problems, but I'd rather be here than there...
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Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2019, 03:54:32 PM »
That's how I am with my personal situation. Whenever things aren't going well for me I recall how much worse it is for so many others. I was just reading a book (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) in which a couple of the characters were chained to an oar in a French warship for two years during the some war or another. What a horrible existence that must have been, and I was really glad I'm me and not some poor bastard like that. Or some other poor bastard who is way worse off than I am.
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Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2019, 04:29:54 PM »
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That's how I am with my personal situation. Whenever things aren't going well for me I recall how much worse it is for so many others. I was just reading a book (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) in which a couple of the characters were chained to an oar in a French warship for two years during the some war or another. What a horrible existence that must have been, and I was really glad I'm me and not some poor bastard like that. Or some other poor bastard who is way worse off than I am.

This is awkward to express and certain to generate some "my ancestor's lives were worse than yours", but most everyone has some slavery/serfdom/servitude in their past.  I seem to have come from a long line of British serfs myself.  Real wretches as far as I can tell and that may have been the happy side of the family.  The French side seems to have been more cruelly serfed by Normans (Vikings) and while apparently one can live on bread alone, it didn't make us big or healthy, LOL!
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2019, 04:59:25 PM »
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That's how I am with my personal situation. Whenever things aren't going well for me I recall how much worse it is for so many others. I was just reading a book (You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) in which a couple of the characters were chained to an oar in a French warship for two years during the some war or another. What a horrible existence that must have been, and I was really glad I'm me and not some poor bastard like that. Or some other poor bastard who is way worse off than I am.

Miguel Cervantes, was a war prisoner, who had to work off his time as a galley slave ala Ben Hur.  He had been a Spanish Marine, but captured by the Barbary Pirates.  Took five years for his family to ransom him.

For me, the fact that others suffer more, makes me more pissed off ... I am like Shiranu that way.  Billions of people, suffering every damn day.
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2019, 05:00:56 PM »
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This is awkward to express and certain to generate some "my ancestor's lives were worse than yours", but most everyone has some slavery/serfdom/servitude in their past.  I seem to have come from a long line of British serfs myself.  Real wretches as far as I can tell and that may have been the happy side of the family.  The French side seems to have been more cruelly serfed by Normans (Vikings) and while apparently one can live on bread alone, it didn't make us big or healthy, LOL!

To not have fresh baguettes every day, would be torture to the French ;-)  Otherwise it is cruel-tons!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2019, 09:29:13 AM »
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Miguel Cervantes, was a war prisoner, who had to work off his time as a galley slave ala Ben Hur.  He had been a Spanish Marine, but captured by the Barbary Pirates.  Took five years for his family to ransom him.

For me, the fact that others suffer more, makes me more pissed off ... I am like Shiranu that way.  Billions of people, suffering every damn day.

I did not know that about Cervantes.  Thank you.  And you are correct about the many more people sufferring servitude to this day.
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Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2019, 01:26:32 PM »
And to think, we could have been any of those other suffering people, but we're not. "There but for the grace of God (or pure luck) go I."
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Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 04:06:32 PM »
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And to think, we could have been any of those other suffering people, but we're not. "There but for the grace of God (or pure luck) go I."

Well, my ancestors do seem to have been English serfs under the Norman Viking rule.  Can't say that affects me now, though.
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 07:02:14 PM »
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And to think, we could have been any of those other suffering people, but we're not. "There but for the grace of God (or pure luck) go I."

That is one of the theological mysteries.  My answer ... only you could perfectly play your part.  Tautological that.
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Offline Baruch

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 07:02:57 PM »
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Well, my ancestors do seem to have been English serfs under the Norman Viking rule.  Can't say that affects me now, though.

Do you cringe every time someone says Normandy!

Normandy!
Normandy!
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Offline Cavebear

Re: China's #MeToo Movement
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 07:33:38 PM »
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Do you cringe every time someone says Normandy!

Normandy!
Normandy!
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Frau Blucher!

No, because the maternal side were the Normans.  And THEY ended up as textile workers in NE working for the SOUTHERN French side of the family who came over here separately.   And it goes on and on, and you will never quite "catch" it ever, LOL!
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