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that Liam Neeson thing

Started by Munch, February 05, 2019, 08:47:33 PM

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Munch

so lets open this can up.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-47117177

so to summarize, some years ago a friend of neesons was raped, by a black man she reported. When he found out he took a weapon and roamed the streets for a week following, hoping for the same black man to come out and attack him, so he could beat him in.

Now, some years later, people are using this as a claim of racism against him.

Theres also reports he was making racist remarks in his fueled raged at the time.


To me, I call bullshit on the huge claims of racism, at least in the way the papers are trying to perpetuate. He was angry, he had a vague picture of the one who did it, and he just wanted for a guy of the color matching the description to attack him first to take it out on him.

This is more of just another witch hunt to get attention from the reporters, because if you had the same situation of lets say idris elba, having a friend of his getting raped by a white man, and he was out prowling the streets hoping to get attacked by a white man and beat him in with a crowbar, if the story was that way around, it wouldn't be considered racist, and we all know thats how it would be.

the racism angle here is just a piss poor attempt by newspapers to get attention from the outrage culture thats prevalent today.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

Worse.  It encourages the idea that colored folk are privileged (to groom) girls, because White Men Bad and Orange Man Bad.  And White men are encouraged to become passive cucks (which helps with their political-economic enslavement).

See slavery isn't bad, as long as a colored person is the master, or if the masters are color blind as to who they enslave.  Grievance politics can morph into imaginary revenge politics.  Who would benefit from a race war in the West?  Hmmm?
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Shiranu

#2
Quote...and he just wanted for a guy of the color matching the description to attack him first to take it out on him.

You literally just described racism.


Quotethe racism angle here is just a piss poor attempt by newspapers to get attention from the outrage culture thats prevalent today.

He was intentionally looking for someone of a certain race, to kill someone of a certain race, because someone of that race harmed a friend...


But it's not racist, it's just the damned leftists!

Jesus christ dude.
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Baruch

Yeah, but most of his movies are revenge fantasies.  Maybe he confused himself with his role?  Mel Gibson comes to mind ;-(

Yes to be fair, if you know a person of a certain race did something, just grab someone who looks like that?  No.  But lynch mobs are fine if you are defending Native American drummers?
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Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on February 06, 2019, 12:55:39 AM


I think the whole reason he admitted is he realised it was racist, and that he has changed... hence the reason, you know, he is saying he is no longer racist...
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pr126

But he is a white male. He is got to be racist. It's the rules. ;-)

Munch

Quote from: Shiranu on February 05, 2019, 09:55:27 PM
You literally just described racism.

Nope, I described someone who had vague details of the rapist, and since it was in a place that wouldn't have a lot of black people neeson looked for those matching the vague description.

Would it help thinking about it being a man who was the rapist? Cause that must knock off some points for acceptable moralising right?

QuoteHe was intentionally looking for someone of a certain race, to kill someone of a certain race, because someone of that race harmed a friend...


But it's not racist, it's just the damned leftists!

Jesus christ dude.

Hey if you want to make it a leftist thing that's up to you brah.

I'm just saying why the papers are doing this now and peoples reactions to it, which just proves the point I'm right about the witch hunt mentality.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

pr126

There you have it.

A white supremacist, racist, far right, probably a Nazi, - remember Schindlers list?
Good grief, what?
Lets tar and feather the blighter.






aitm

Looks like that part about him saying he  ashamed may have been overlooked by some. I can see that happening to lots of people. Admitting it on TV as a famous person takes balls bigger than mine. While saying he should be applauded would garner more admonishment than his statement that fact that if we speak the truth about a past issue and that we are sorry about it and then attacked, when IF he admitted the thing without saying he was sorry all the peeps would be demanding he apologize.

Kinda similar when a person steals something and the "victim" says, "if they would have asked I would have given it to them" when we all know that's bullshit.
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Shiranu

QuoteNope, I described someone who had vague details of the rapist, and since it was in a place that wouldn't have a lot of black people neeson looked for those matching the vague description.

Yes... a vague detail... of his race... which he then proceeded to look for anyone of that same race to take it out on...

Totally not racist though.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Mermaid

He specified that he was looking for a black man to kill.

The actor said, after someone he knew was allegedly raped by a black attacker, he walked the streets hoping to kill some “black bastard” in revenge.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh (a club), hoping I’d be approached by somebody â€" I’m ashamed to say that â€" and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him,”
A cynical habit of thought and speech, a readiness to criticise work which the critic himself never tries to perform, an intellectual aloofness which will not accept contact with life’s realities â€" all these are marks, not as the possessor would fain to think, of superiority but of weakness. -TR

Munch

Quote from: Mermaid on February 06, 2019, 10:43:10 AM
He specified that he was looking for a black man to kill.

The actor said, after someone he knew was allegedly raped by a black attacker, he walked the streets hoping to kill some “black bastard” in revenge.

“I went up and down areas with a cosh (a club), hoping I’d be approached by somebody â€" I’m ashamed to say that â€" and I did it for maybe a week, hoping some ‘black bastard’ would come out of a pub and have a go at me about something, you know? So that I could kill him,”

nothing said there suggests black hating bigot.

He was given a vague distribution of the rapist, a black man, by his friend. He went out to beat to death someone matching that description, a black man who he wanted to come at him and attack him so he could retaliate.

He didn't go attacking random black people on the street, he didn't go around calling every black person he saw a black bastard.

the only wrong thing here was the fact he wanted to beat someone to death instead of letting the criminal justice system handle it.



let me tell you a little story my aunt shared with me. You'd like my aunt, she virtue signals about herself being amazing and righteous all the time, so I think she'd get on well with people on this forum.
She hates liam neeson now after this story broke, her view on him is forever tainted, and she thinks he is now an evil racist bigot, once a racist bigot, always a racist bigot, she even said anyone whos ever commited the crime of racism can never change and will always be that way, same as if someone were a nazi, even if it was someone roped into the nazi party in germany against their will and had never killed or harmed anyone, that person will always be a nazi.

My aunt told me how she was walking back from the shops one day with bags of shopping, and passed a large black woman in the street. As she passed the large black woman refereed to my aunt as 'white trash', and my aunt proceeded to swing her bags at the woman telling 'black bastard'.
And yet heres my aunt today claiming liam neeson is an unforgivable racist who can never change.

my aunt is a dingbat, and doesn't think about what she's saying most of the time, only that what she says makes her look good.


'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

#13
Quote from: Shiranu on February 06, 2019, 09:27:38 AM
Yes... a vague detail... of his race... which he then proceeded to look for anyone of that same race to take it out on...

Totally not racist though.

But some are anti-White.  But that isn't racist.

My mother, as a child, was made to attend a KKK lynching party.  That was like 85 years ago.  According to some, that is happening every day in the US, not just in 1932, but today also.  Delusional paranoia.  Some people are dangerous, like the "white" clothed feminists at the SOTU speech.  Socialism will kill millions in the US.  And all feminists want Communism, now!  Islam also, go figure.
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Shiranu

#14
QuoteHe went out to beat to death someone matching that description, a black man who he wanted to come at him and attack him so he could retaliate.

Again... that is literally describing racism...


He was looking for someone of a certain race, to beat and kill, because he shared the same racial background as someone he was (rightfully) angry at.


Would you argue the Sikh temple shooter wasn't racist?
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