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Started by Iftikhar, January 19, 2019, 10:44:27 AM

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pr126

OK, if it not a religious practise, why is it written in the Sharia Law as I have provided as evidence?

Muhammad, the perfect prophet should have forbidden these pagan “cultural” practises.
But he endorsed them.

Therefore it is a religious practise. And in Islam, religion drives the culture.
Islam is a complete way of life for Muslims.

Baruch

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Quote from: pr126 on February 15, 2019, 03:17:29 AM
OK, if it not a religious practise, why is it written in the Sharia Law as I have provided as evidence?

Muhammad, the perfect prophet should have forbidden these pagan “cultural” practises.
But he endorsed them.

Therefore it is a religious practise. And in Islam, religion drives the culture.
Islam is a complete way of life for Muslims.

Sharia is bullshit, scripture is bullshit, Hadith are bullshit.  There was no Muhammad.  The point is political power, and from that desire, comes 100% lies.  If the Arabs had been consistent, they would have never allowed female circumcision, but in politics, there is no need for complete consistency.  The fictional Muhammad was a feminist.  The Caliphate would have embraced Judaism or Christianity if they had needed that to win, but inventing a new religion is what they chose, and it worked brilliantly.  Jew and Christians were seen as useful idiots at best, Fifth columnists at worse (and are still seen that way).  Essentially the Quran is a fictional political tract to justify the position of the early Umayyad Caliphate in Damascus.  As the whole question of the original Mecca and original Qiblah proves.

If you weren't an atheist, you would see the Islam is a political system disguised as a religion, rather than a religion disguised as a political system.  Some here might approve of Islam (and not just 3rd wave Feminists) if it were just another totalitarian ideology.  The point is for the psychopathic monkeys to fight over who achieves absolute power.  Stalin vs Hitler again and again.

To be fair, and to remind ... Moses and Jesus are complete bullshit.  Totalitarianism arises from the failure of humanity as a species, mediated by endless variants of failed messiahs.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

#32
I do see Islam as a political system. Always have been, always will be.
The thin veneer of religion is the cohesive force added to control the Muslims.

It is designed for conquest and looting by a genocidal warlord.

57 Islamic states to date. There will be more.
Why are Muslims so eager to get a foot into the political estabilishment?
To work for Islam first and foremost from within.
Their allegiance is not for America.  Don’t kid yourself.
Watch those new Muslim congresswomen, they are already working for the advance of Islam.
They are plants. Same as Huma was.








Plu

Should put a ban on all GM, both the male and female variant. They're equally stupid religious traditions.

Shiranu

QuoteBut it is a religious practice, not cultural.

In the case of Islam religion drives culture.

First, religion IS culture. Always has been, always will be. Islam doesn't have some sort of unique status as being the only religion that is cultural...

Secondly, FGM is not even remotely unique to Islam, nor is it something that is practiced that much outside of Western Africa, the Horn of Africa, and Malaysia.

In the countries that do practice it, especially on a large scale, the percentage of Christians that also mutilate their daughters is almost always the exact same as the Muslim population... and that is because this tradition predates the arrival of Abrahamic religions.

A like-for-like comparison would be saying that the African witch burnings is Christianities' fault; while it's true it is done in Christianities' name, the tradition goes back to their pagan times when magic was a large part of their culture and used to explain why people got sick, lost their crop, or any other ailment. The practice is explained in Christian terms now, but it wasn't brought to Africa by the Christians.

The point of saying that isn't to say it's okay... it's to say that, if you were to remove Islam, Christianity, "religion" from those countries instantaneously, right now, the practice would still continue. If Islam and Christianity had never been introduced it would still be a problem. So given those two facts... it's better to focus on the actual problem rather than blame the wrong thing.

The same can be see in Muslim immigrants to Europe and America; FGM is not a real problem amongst Saudi, Pakistani, Iranian, Iraqi, Afghani populations but more amongst Somali, Sudanese, Liberian, etc. populations.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur