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Online Draconic Aiur

Re: Diversity
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2019, 05:58:05 AM »
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Multiculturalism claims that all cultures "should" be equal and should be respected as such.

Multiculturism supports diversity which can be a negative as well as a plus. The cons are that not all cultures sees the problem in their ways and that causes riffs with another. Culture shock may be a part of it, but its mostly the product of superiority complexes, religious bigots, and nutjobs.
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Offline pr126

Re: Diversity
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2019, 06:23:03 AM »

That is not what I wrote.

This is:
β€œMulticulturalism claims that all cultures are equal and should be respected as such.”
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Re: Diversity
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2019, 07:42:48 AM »
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Why does Iftikhar have only one post, but his post count is 36?
His account was created in 2006, so his other posts were probably made before the forum wipe.
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Re: Diversity
« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2019, 01:58:03 PM »
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That right there is simply a wishful statement (was going to say 'thinking' but this guy is not capable of that).  No need to read any further to know this guy is simply another theist that is full of shit that he thinks does not stink.

Yup.  I tuned out after the first sentence of the OP

Offline Baruch

Re: Diversity
« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2019, 07:36:23 PM »
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Yup.  I tuned out after the first sentence of the OP

Iftaikhar is a special pleader for social/educational ghettos for Muslims in England.  Because the English are infidels who are a threat to the virginity of the Muslim daughters.
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Offline pr126

Re: Diversity
« Reply #20 on: February 15, 2019, 12:50:08 AM »
Diversity is our strength!

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Online Shiranu

Re: Diversity
« Reply #21 on: February 15, 2019, 01:11:15 AM »
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β€œMulticulturalism claims that all cultures are equal and should be respected as such.”

And that's not what multiculturalism claims, at least not in America nor in academia.

Yes, all cultures are equally valid, but that does not mean that, say, female genital mutilation should be respected in Western society. We have to understand where they are coming from, and that to them it may make sense, but that does not mean that things that fundamentally clash with our ethics should be permissible.
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: Diversity
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2019, 01:12:46 AM »
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And that's not what multiculturalism claims, at least not in America nor in academia.

Yes, all cultures are equally valid, but that does not mean that, say, female genital mutilation should be respected in Western society. We have to understand where they are coming from, and that to them it may make sense, but that does not mean that things that fundamentally clash with our ethics should be permissible.
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Re: Diversity
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2019, 01:30:37 AM »
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"Who the hell care's what it claims when we can instead be angry about what we insist it claims!211111!!!!"
-the conservative dolts


Actually, it is you who is angry by the look of it. So angry, that you need to comment. :-) 
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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: Diversity
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2019, 01:34:57 AM »
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Actually, it is you who is angry by the look of it. So angry, that you need to comment. :-)
If it makes you feel better, you can think I'm angry.
I just find it humorous, though.

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Re: Diversity
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2019, 01:42:54 AM »
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And that's not what multiculturalism claims, at least not in America nor in academia.

Yes, all cultures are equally valid, but that does not mean that, say, female genital mutilation should be respected in Western society. We have to understand where they are coming from, and that to them it may make sense, but that does not mean that things that fundamentally clash with our ethics should be permissible.

FGM Not only respected but banning FGM is unconstitutional, according to US court.
At least in Michigan.

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But it is a religious practice, not cultural.
 
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In the case of Islam religion drives culture.
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Re: Diversity
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2019, 01:43:51 AM »
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If it makes you feel better, you can think I'm angry.
I just find it humorous, though.

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Offline PickelledEggs

Re: Diversity
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2019, 01:45:41 AM »
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Whatever. I don't think you are amused.
If I wasn't amused, I wouldn't be here and I would have banned you by now for trolling.

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Offline Baruch

Re: Diversity
« Reply #28 on: February 15, 2019, 03:07:32 AM »
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FGM Not only respected but banning FGM is unconstitutional, according to US court.
At least in Michigan.

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But it is a religious practice, not cultural.
 
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In the case of Islam religion drives culture.

Not true.  It is cultural, both male and female circumcision.  Islam didn't support, as a religion (but they have no Pope) African cultural practices.  In fact, Arabs would naturally feel racially superior to Africans.  Though all Semites, including Arabs, have been doing male circumcision for 4 millennia.

Would a US court, ban as a cultural or religious icon, the Ubangi practice of lip plates?  Probably not.  We have both freedom of religion, and freedom for scarification like tongue studs.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Diversity
« Reply #29 on: February 15, 2019, 03:13:07 AM »
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And that's not what multiculturalism claims, at least not in America nor in academia.

Yes, all cultures are equally valid, but that does not mean that, say, female genital mutilation should be respected in Western society. We have to understand where they are coming from, and that to them it may make sense, but that does not mean that things that fundamentally clash with our ethics should be permissible.

In terms of social approval you are right.  But that doesn't mean it translates to laws banning a cultural practice.  In the case of peyote, a way was found to allow legal drug use by Native Americans.  But it isn't open to non-Native Americans.  Which isn't fair, is it?  But it is pragmatic.

There are a fair number of people who still disapprove of abortion, adultery, gay sex etc ... and we are lucky that doesn't automatically translate into legal sanction, in spite of historic norms.  The ethical sensitivity of SJWs?  The horror!
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