Author Topic: Newspeak  (Read 535 times)

Offline Baruch

Newspeak
« on: January 16, 2019, 03:44:21 AM »
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The roots of PC language go deep, deep into totalitarian Hell.
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Re: Newspeak
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2019, 10:21:39 AM »
Can you explain briefly what the video says.

I couldn't follow the speaker because there were lots of words i don't know their meanings..

Offline Baruch

Re: Newspeak
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2019, 07:03:45 PM »
People don’t understand what they are saying, and therefore don’t know what they are thinking.  Can you recall verbatim the OED (Oxford English Dictionary) entries that match the words you post here, or what you used in speech or thinking.  Nobody can.

In Anglophone political-economics, we are just as good, Left and Right, in competing with Hitler and Stalin in the propaganda department.  Propaganda language is polarizing, so that polities can be polarized were this language is used.  Newspeak is sufficiently straight-jacket, that wrong-thought isn’t in your vocabulary … and therefore wrong-speech and wrong-writing are also impossible.

The totalitarians want this kind of tool.  Intellectuals since Plato want totalitarianism, because they think they will get to lead it.  French and Russian revolutions exemplify this.  The plan is to benefit the proletariat/peasants … but in fact they don’t have the power or intention to do that.  What they want is to seize and maintain power.

Notice President Maduro of Venezuela was a media star, as was President Trump of the US.  Mayor de Blasio of NYC (Democrat) has gone full populist Marxist (wealth is in the wrong hands he says).  His predecessor Michael Bloomberg (Republican) is the 11th of the world’s richest men.  But Mr Bloomberg is changing over to (Democrat) in order to run for President in 2020.  Chameleons.

In the last 20 years, in the US and UK, the Elite have adopted the new SJW language of Marxism.  Lenin famously said, the best way to defeat an opposition, is to lead it.  But the Elites are using this against Marxism, by being in language, more Marxist than the Socialist Cadre.  Of course it can’t be called Communism, Progressivism or Populism will do … what the Elite are doing are throwing a poison sop to the proletariat.  They have no intention of giving up power, but per a famous US plutocrat of the 19th century (I can hire half the population to kill the other half).  Billionaires in Che Guevara t-shirts.  Intellectuals in French berets being useful idiots.
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Offline pr126

Re: Newspeak
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2019, 04:57:54 AM »
He who controls the language controls the masses.

Politically Correct enforcement is control of the masses.

« Last Edit: January 17, 2019, 05:03:10 AM by pr126 »

Offline Cavebear

Re: Newspeak
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2019, 02:54:05 AM »
The 1984 language of Newspeak was to make words mean the opposite of what they previously meant to mess with the minds of the citizens.  War is Peace...

There is always a nugget of sense in the lies of the autocrats.  If the 3 powers of the world are constantly at war, then war is status quo and therefore at "peace" in the sense that "all is as usual".  Right...

Which is, of course total nonsense.  Constant war is never "peace".  Only constant peace is "peace".

There are fools who think that causing war to gain materials is beneficial.  War always brings more cost and wastes more benefits than it gains.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Offline Baruch

Re: Newspeak
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2019, 07:15:54 AM »
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The 1984 language of Newspeak was to make words mean the opposite of what they previously meant to mess with the minds of the citizens.  War is Peace...

There is always a nugget of sense in the lies of the autocrats.  If the 3 powers of the world are constantly at war, then war is status quo and therefore at "peace" in the sense that "all is as usual".  Right...

Which is, of course total nonsense.  Constant war is never "peace".  Only constant peace is "peace".

There are fools who think that causing war to gain materials is beneficial.  War always brings more cost and wastes more benefits than it gains.

Actually ... correct.  I work in DoD but I don't ever advocate war.  In that case, friends die.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Newspeak
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2019, 07:31:13 AM »
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Actually ... correct.  I work in DoD but I don't ever advocate war.  In that case, friends die.

Of course.  I'm never wrong.  And really, I'm not.  I got charged a wrong price for peaches at the grocery store last week and had to go to the customer service counter) a real contradiction in terms.  They said their checkout prices were accurate and I said they weren't.  They called the produce manager to the desk.  Meanwhile, I said to the desk person I'm never wrong on this stuff".  Ans she said "no one is perfect".  I said "I am".

The produce manager brought the bin label to the desk.    Guess who was right (again)?  If you guessed the desk person, try again.  I'm never wrong.  Because I only say I'm right when I know I am...

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