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Started by Baruch, January 08, 2019, 08:34:38 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 10, 2019, 05:29:38 AM
If you want me to make your wishes come true, you're going to have to play nicer Baruch.

Wink Wink, nudge nudge.

I am not the kind of guy to rub your bottle ;-)
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Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Cavebear

The threats of immigration are not from the general Mexican Border.  Drugs come in through legal points of entry that escape discovery.  Terrorists enter through airports.  The number of people who are in the US as "illegal immigrants" are Canadians (and I love them) who are overstaying their visas.  Illegal immigrantion through Mexico is at a long-time low. 

Trump is, as always, making a mountain from a molehill. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on January 12, 2019, 01:22:41 AM
The threats of immigration are not from the general Mexican Border.  Drugs come in through legal points of entry that escape discovery.  Terrorists enter through airports.  The number of people who are in the US as "illegal immigrants" are Canadians (and I love them) who are overstaying their visas.  Illegal immigrantion through Mexico is at a long-time low. 

Trump is, as always, making a mountain from a molehill.

We can also shut all other ports of entry.  Think of the tourists, of the humanity ... sigh.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
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Don't do that.

Unbeliever

Trump doesn't care about his wall or his supporters, all he cares about is crippling America for his daddy, Putin. Chaos is his stock in trade, and he's using it well.

What if all those federal employees have to quit and get other jobs just to pay their bills and feed their families? I'm sure that would be icing on Putin's cake.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

Quote from: Unbeliever on January 12, 2019, 01:54:41 PM
Trump doesn't care about his wall or his supporters, all he cares about is crippling America for his daddy, Putin. Chaos is his stock in trade, and he's using it well.

What if all those federal employees have to quit and get other jobs just to pay their bills and feed their families? I'm sure that would be icing on Putin's cake.

Trump was fathered by Stalin himself ... because Unbeliever says so/

We can hope that the whole NWO will fail soon, the sooner the better.  The neo-cons and neo-libs can burn in Hell, so says their many victims world-wide.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
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Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Baruch on January 12, 2019, 02:16:44 AM
We can also shut all other ports of entry.  Think of the tourists, of the humanity ... sigh.

There was a TV channel that showed the way most Central American drugs reached the US.  Legal points of entry via cars, subs, herlicoptors, gliders.  The WALL isn't a problem and won't stop anyone.
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Blackleaf

The wall is such an incredibly stupid idea. How is this even a political opinion? People on both sides of the political spectrum should be able to see how moronic Trump's plan is. First, the wall would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to build, plus more to maintain it since, you know, the earth doesn't stay still. And even if we did that, would it stop illegals from crossing the boarder? Nope. They'd just use a ladder and rope. So even if you do believe the nonsense about the "national emergency" at the border, as thousands of criminals walk in with their drugs, this solution is not going to change anything. It's nothing but a waste of resources.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Mike Cl

Quote from: Blackleaf on January 30, 2019, 01:18:02 PM
The wall is such an incredibly stupid idea. How is this even a political opinion? People on both sides of the political spectrum should be able to see how moronic Trump's plan is. First, the wall would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to build, plus more to maintain it since, you know, the earth doesn't stay still. And even if we did that, would it stop illegals from crossing the boarder? Nope. They'd just use a ladder and rope. So even if you do believe the nonsense about the "national emergency" at the border, as thousands of criminals walk in with their drugs, this solution is not going to change anything. It's nothing but a waste of resources.
I hear you---totally!!  Yet this stupid fucker still gets about 40% popularity rating.  How in the world can that be????!!  Stupid Fucking Americans make up over half of us.  They are like all religious people--reasoning does not count, only believing does.  They believe trump is , the one, and there is no way to change that.  I will not be surprised if he is re-elected.  We are that fucked up as a nation.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

Unbeliever

Apparently it's true that you can't logic someone out of a position they weren't logic-ed into in the first place.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Blackleaf

Quote from: Mike Cl on January 30, 2019, 03:12:15 PM
I hear you---totally!!  Yet this stupid fucker still gets about 40% popularity rating.  How in the world can that be????!!  Stupid Fucking Americans make up over half of us.  They are like all religious people--reasoning does not count, only believing does.  They believe trump is , the one, and there is no way to change that.  I will not be surprised if he is re-elected.  We are that fucked up as a nation.

Hell. I'd be surprised if he isn't re-elected. Republicans will all vote for him over the "evil atheist socialist Democrat," of course, but it'll be up to the people in the center to decide, and the incumbent always has the advantage. Considering they honestly believed that Trump was somehow a better choice than Hillary, I don't have much faith in their judgement.
"Oh, wearisome condition of humanity,
Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
--Fulke Greville--

Unbeliever

I suspect that even the late-night comedians who are getting so many laughs out of the Trump phenom will get tired of making jokes about him and try to find something else to focus on. Their viewers will get so tired of him they'll stop watching just to avoid having to think about him.
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Baruch

#41
Quote from: Cavebear on January 30, 2019, 12:30:43 PM
There was a TV channel that showed the way most Central American drugs reached the US.  Legal points of entry via cars, subs, herlicoptors, gliders.  The WALL isn't a problem and won't stop anyone.

Many drug users don't want interdiction either ;-)  Yes, there is a lot of importation, but not via helpless immigrants going thru the Sonora desert.  The drug cartel isn't that stupid.  America wants unlimited slave labor and drugs from Latin America.  It should fail and be forgotten ... both for D evil and R evil.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#42
Quote from: Blackleaf on January 30, 2019, 01:18:02 PM
The wall is such an incredibly stupid idea. How is this even a political opinion? People on both sides of the political spectrum should be able to see how moronic Trump's plan is. First, the wall would cost hundreds of billions of dollars to build, plus more to maintain it since, you know, the earth doesn't stay still. And even if we did that, would it stop illegals from crossing the boarder? Nope. They'd just use a ladder and rope. So even if you do believe the nonsense about the "national emergency" at the border, as thousands of criminals walk in with their drugs, this solution is not going to change anything. It's nothing but a waste of resources.

The wall is symbolic.  The Great Wall of China was to keep people in, not keep people out.  Commentary is so ... childish over this issue.  Just kill all the Latin Americans?  The point is entry/exit control, and control of businessmen/tourists.  I say, put electronic anklets on them.  And shock collars.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on January 12, 2019, 01:22:41 AM
The threats of immigration are not from the general Mexican Border.  Drugs come in through legal points of entry that escape discovery.  Terrorists enter through airports.  The number of people who are in the US as "illegal immigrants" are Canadians (and I love them) who are overstaying their visas.  Illegal immigrantion through Mexico is at a long-time low. 

Trump is, as always, making a mountain from a molehill.

If all the crime enters and exits thru airports, then we can fire the TSA now?  Hopeful.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

#44
Quote from: Mike Cl on January 30, 2019, 03:12:15 PM
I hear you---totally!!  Yet this stupid fucker still gets about 40% popularity rating.  How in the world can that be????!!  Stupid Fucking Americans make up over half of us.  They are like all religious people--reasoning does not count, only believing does.  They believe trump is , the one, and there is no way to change that.  I will not be surprised if he is re-elected.  We are that fucked up as a nation.

If only he would fuck his interns, while his wife watches (and is fucking her Muslim lesbo subordinate?).  Then they would be as popular as the Clintons.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.