Author Topic: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!  (Read 820 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2019, 03:03:51 PM »
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Let being "right" be the reward.  Sometimes, it is all we have.

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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 03:08:12 PM »
So we have an organization who claims they are moral authority of the world and they say "masturbation is considered to be objectively disordered and intrinsically evil" while it defends hundreds of priests who performed sex acts with children.

Yeah, not buying it.

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The proportion of US Catholics who regard priests as honest and ethical has plummeted to a record low of fewer than one in three, according to a survey.

The fall of 18 percentage points between 2017 and 2018 is attributed to the last year’s scandals over clerical sexual abuse.
Fewer than half of the Catholics surveyed by Gallup said they had confidence in organised religion, a drop of eight percentage points over the period.

The poll was conducted four months after the publication of a scathing grand jury report into sexual abuse and its cover-up by Catholic priests and bishops in Pennsylvania.

An investigation found that at least 300 priests had abused about 1,000 children and vulnerable adults over 70 years, and that their superiors had either stood by or in some cases actively covered up criminal acts. ...
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #32 on: January 11, 2019, 03:35:42 PM »
And it didn't start 70 years ago, it's been going on for centuries.
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2019, 06:00:11 PM »
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A third of US Catholics think priests are not honest or ethical


Which makes me wonder WTF is wrong with the other two thirds.
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2019, 03:18:31 AM »
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Which makes me wonder WTF is wrong with the other two thirds.

The attempt to eliminate sexual urges in the name of "purity" leads to inappropriate outlets.

I doubt that married priests would be so "disturbed" in their limited opportunities for sex.  On the other hand, that so many religious authorities would molest children says a lot about the damaging thoughts that religion creates.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2019, 08:02:49 AM »
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The attempt to eliminate sexual urges in the name of "purity" leads to inappropriate outlets.

I doubt that married priests would be so "disturbed" in their limited opportunities for sex.  On the other hand, that so many religious authorities would molest children says a lot about the damaging thoughts that religion creates.

Correct.  But pedophiles would still have those urges.  And by far, the unannounced problem is priests with women and girls.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2019, 10:04:55 AM »
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Correct.  But pedophiles would still have those urges.  And by far, the unannounced problem is priests with women and girls.

No, I'm claiming that the very structure of denying priests a normal life causes it.  Religion (and note that for once I'm saying "religion"  rather than "a deity")  is the cause...

"Religion" is where "belief" and "organization" combine to fuck up (literally)...
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Offline Baruch

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2019, 11:23:20 AM »
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No, I'm claiming that the very structure of denying priests a normal life causes it.  Religion (and note that for once I'm saying "religion"  rather than "a deity")  is the cause...

"Religion" is where "belief" and "organization" combine to fuck up (literally)...

So only celibates are pedophiles?  Not saying I endorse priest celibacy ... I have always opposed it, so does the E Orthodox Church and Protestantism.
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2019, 01:42:02 PM »
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The pope signaled his intention to harness the power of technology to reach out to young people by launching a prayer app three days before he will attend a Catholic youth festival in Panama.


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This will make it so much easier for God-botherers to - uh...bother God. Ain't technology grand?

Apparently the RCC wants to "reach out to young people." Sure, what's wrong with that? They've been doing that for a long time, and only recently got in a bit of a kerfuffle for it...
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2019, 03:38:14 PM »
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No, I'm claiming that the very structure of denying priests a normal life causes it.  Religion (and note that for once I'm saying "religion"  rather than "a deity")  is the cause...

"Religion" is where "belief" and "organization" combine to fuck up (literally)...

Hmmm...  I wonder CB.  Don't you think that if you take a group of people and tell them that "god" thinks they are very special that it doesn't go to their heads?  Throughout history priests have always considered themselves special.
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #40 on: February 16, 2019, 08:04:01 PM »
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CBS News correspondent Nikki Battiste joined CBSN to discuss new sexual abuse allegations in the Catholic Church. At least 18 people have come forward to say they were sexually abused by nuns. The alleged victims said they felt compelled to talk after a Pennsylvania grand jury identified hundreds of "pedophile priests."



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"I can’t really say that anything he says is true, but I trust him."
Valarie Wunder, 34, a home health aide from Worland, Wyo., about Donald Trump

Offline Baruch

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2019, 03:03:47 AM »
Ironic that Puritans (now atheists not Protestants) find Catholicism bad?  There is no right/wrong, just like/dislike.

One of the prior reported abuses in Irish Catholic circles (in Ireland) was abuse of corporal punishment.  Not as titillating as sexual abuse though.

So when will atheists begin the "dunking" of witches and "burning" of heretics?

"Moral Panic" is a thing in social cyclical history.
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Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2019, 07:11:48 PM »
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Ireland wanted to forget, but the dead don't always stay buried. One woman made it her mission to unearth the truth.


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"I can’t really say that anything he says is true, but I trust him."
Valarie Wunder, 34, a home health aide from Worland, Wyo., about Donald Trump

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2019, 07:33:47 PM »
That kind of shit didn't just happen in Ireland:

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This is the haunting story of children who survived horrors in American orphanages, and their fight to make the world believe them.


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"I can’t really say that anything he says is true, but I trust him."
Valarie Wunder, 34, a home health aide from Worland, Wyo., about Donald Trump

Offline Baruch

Re: Damned Catholics - The Gift That Keeps On Giving!
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2019, 09:25:00 PM »
Ah yes, but far better than orphanages, let's just have free sex, violation of marriage vows, abortion and infanticide.  Of course one bad turn deserves another.
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