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Started by trdsf, December 18, 2018, 07:57:44 PM

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trdsf

We don't have to rely on just the aura of scumbaggery and asshattery exuded by the Orange Disaster Area; there are several serious allegations being made against him that, if true, constitute not just criminal activity but an explicit breach of the Constitution.

These three are the most serious, I think:


  • Hush money payments, particularly now that his former attorney Michael Cohen has stated they were directed by Trump himself, and AMI -- parent company of the National Enquirer -- is corroborating his testimony.  AMI has been killing stories damaging to Trump for years; one cannot help but wonder what (else) lurks in their safe.
  • The closure of the Trump Foundation under the supervision of the New York attorney general’s office. The investigation is ongoing; the AG described the foundation as “little more than a checkbook to serve Mr Trump’s business and political interests.”  Additionally, he can't pardon himself or his spawn (or spawn-in-law) out of this one -- it's a state case, not a federal one.
  • The emoluments case spearheaded by the DC and Maryland attorneys general.  This is a particularly interesting one, since if proven, it’s an explicit violation of the Constitution.  I can’t think of anything more obviously impeachable than that.

And still lurking is the Mueller investigation, which has yet to level specific allegations against Lord Dampnut so I don't include it above.  The firing of FBI Director Comey may or may not have been unethical, but it wasn't so far as I know illegal â€" Comey was an employee of the Executive Branch, and serves at the pleasure of the chief executive.

Of course, Congressional Republicans just don't care.  Even though we all know that they would have started impeachment proceedings against a Democrat based on just the allegations, never mind facts and investigations, of any one of these.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Baruch

Yes, is anyone surprised by the corruption?  But isn't this the Clinton playbook too?  See, I don't love corruption either, but I would commit genocide over partisanship.  Not a puritan on morals ... just don't like it in high places.  If the Clintons and Trumps were slum dwellers ....
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

'Sorry losers and haters, but my I.Q. is one of the highest â€" and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure, it’s not your fault.'
D.J. Trump

'I think Viagra is wonderful if you need it, if you have medical issues, if you’ve had surgery. I’ve just never needed it. Frankly, I wouldn’t mind if there were an anti-Viagra, something with the opposite effect. I’m not bragging. I’m just lucky. I don’t need it. I’ve always said, "If you need Viagra, you’re probably with the wrong girl."'
D.J. Trump


What a font of wisdom is D.J. Trump!
God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Munch

is this site turning into a soapbox stand now?
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Minimalist

What Clinton "corruption" is that?  Remember, you will be asked to produce your evidence and if you start citing Breitbart you are going to get flamed.

After 7 failed Benghazi investigations the republicunts wasted another $7 million on yet another one.  But I imagine that is your idea of "good government?"
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Mike Cl

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

trdsf

Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 08:34:47 PM
is this site turning into a soapbox stand now?
This is the Political/Government General Discussion area, you know.  You might have a point if I had put it elsewhere, but I didn't.
"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Baruch

#7
Quote from: Munch on December 18, 2018, 08:34:47 PM
is this site turning into a soapbox stand now?

Psychopath central ... don't ask don't tell, what molecules may be smoked or snorted here.  And these monkeys banned Gilgamesh ;-)
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on December 18, 2018, 09:08:20 PM
What Clinton "corruption" is that?  Remember, you will be asked to produce your evidence and if you start citing Breitbart you are going to get flamed.

After 7 failed Benghazi investigations the republicunts wasted another $7 million on yet another one.  But I imagine that is your idea of "good government?"

Yes, you are ... ignorable.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Mike Cl on December 18, 2018, 10:13:55 PM
You do so love to make stuff up.

Actually not.  You are ignorable too.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

SGOS


Baruch

Quote from: SGOS on December 19, 2018, 07:08:41 AM
Thread derailed.

1. Murder of Trump family
2. Genocide of Republicans

There ... back on topic.

I understand y'alls pain, but your revenge fantasies are Nazi.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

trdsf

"My faith in the Constitution is whole, it is complete, it is total, and I am not going to sit here and be an idle spectator to the diminution, the subversion, the destruction of the Constitution." -- Barbara Jordan

Mike Cl

Quote from: Baruch on December 19, 2018, 02:57:00 AM
Actually not.  You are ignorable too.
Oh, no!!!  Not that!!!  Fucking grow up Baruch!  More and more you sound like a Trump 5th grade bully. 
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?<br />Then he is not omnipotent,<br />Is he able but not willing?<br />Then whence cometh evil?<br />Is he neither able or willing?<br />Then why call him god?

SGOS

Quote from: trdsf on December 19, 2018, 08:41:51 AM
Not if you have Baruch on ignore, it's not.
LOL  I heard about this yesterday on NPR.  While we've heard these allegations since before Trump was elected, this is the first formal action taken by a government agency that I know of, albeit a state government.  Well, OK, congress has had their investigations to show the public that they are doing something.  This almost sounds like a States Rights issue taking on the Fed, so I'm doubtful that it goes anywhere.  But the funny thing is, I knew right away it would show up in the forum, and my first thought was wondering how soon Baruch would turn this into a condemnation of Hillary in attempt to deflect the issue away from his beloved hero <See reply #1>.  Now it doesn't take a fortune teller to predict that, but it still makes me chuckle.