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Offline pr126

The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« on: December 15, 2018, 08:50:44 AM »
The Bankrupt Welfare State: Coming Turmoil of the 2020's

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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2018, 09:28:40 AM »
Free money for everyone.  After sabotage of Brexit, won't Brits admire the money management of Mugabe?  Every Brit will be a billionaire (in pounds).
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Offline Cavebear

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2018, 02:22:15 AM »
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The Bankrupt Welfare State: Coming Turmoil of the 2020's

Is the only thing you can offer in support of your ideas to show emotional-but-unfactual videos from other places?  That is not an argument.  Offering facts and your interpretations of those facts WOULD be.  Thinking for yourself would be.  Explaining your views in your own words would be. 

Try it sometime...
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Offline pr126

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2018, 02:35:38 AM »
You believe that all those millions of migrants heading north will roll up their sleeves and get to work and pay taxes?




Offline Cavebear

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2018, 02:52:00 AM »
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You believe that all those millions of migrants heading north will roll up their sleeves and get to work and pay taxes?

Well, it isn't "millions" in any year.  And the number of illegal immigrants has been dropping for years.  As our NAFTA treaty has been improving conditions in Mexico, fewer people feel a need to move.

And actually, yes those immigrants do work.  They work hard.  And they generally do pay their taxes.  They find our lack of governmental and police corruption a great relief.  They find the lack of gangs a great relief.  They do jobs most employers cannot hire among Americans. 

Let's help keep things that way.  Support their communities instead of harrassing them.  Encourage citizenship.

There is a standard pattern among all immigrants.  The first generation lives among themselves speaking their native language.  And why not?  Can YOU learn another language fluently at 40?  Then their children are bi-lingual.  They speak the "old" language at home because they have to talk to their parents of course.  But they also need to speak with new friends and at school.  And THEIR children speak mostly only American.  And after that, you can't tell them from you or me and that is what the success of America IS!

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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2018, 07:32:33 PM »
Mexicans are mostly Catholic, not Muslim.  That makes a huge difference.
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Offline Cavebear

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2018, 06:00:57 AM »
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Mexicans are mostly Catholic, not Muslim.  That makes a huge difference.

Utterly irrelevant...  I consider both to be fanatical crazed superstitious lunatics.  As being of one side, you probably can't see the difference.  Or the similarities for that matter.  And the same with hindus, buddhists, etc...
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2018, 08:41:58 PM »
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Utterly irrelevant...  I consider both to be fanatical crazed superstitious lunatics.  As being of one side, you probably can't see the difference.  Or the similarities for that matter.  And the same with hindus, buddhists, etc...

You hate everyone .. and think I am a misanthrope?  Almost all of humanity are theistic.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2018, 11:02:25 PM »
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You hate everyone .. and think I am a misanthrope?  Almost all of humanity are theistic.

I do not hate everyone, of course. I just hate idiots.  Granted, they are a majority of the world population.  Note that atheists are about 16.5% of the world population, and growing.  I don't mind that we are a minority.  So are most really intelligent people.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2018, 11:34:57 PM »
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You believe that all those millions of migrants heading north will roll up their sleeves and get to work and pay taxes?





They generally do, so yeah... I do expect that actually.

Speaking of the welfare state and immigrants, you do realise they are not given welfare here in the States, right? We barely provide our own citizens welfare...
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2018, 11:46:51 PM »
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They generally do, so yeah... I do expect that actually.

Speaking of the welfare state and immigrants, you do realise they are not given welfare here in the States, right? We barely provide our own citizens welfare...

That is how it works in the US.  Don't extrapolate to other cultures (or are we all post-WW II European socialist?).  The integration of immigrants prior to 1920 in the US was brutal, but necessary, given the large numbers.  Continuation of prior culture was beaten out of children, in the tenements or on the Reservation boarding school.  It was inconceivable to provide luxury accommodation to immigrants ... which is the goal, if not the reality, for modern liberals, who want to vicariously assuage their guilty conscience.  Actual liberals from 1900, wanted to sterilize immigrant women, to prevent too many unwanted children, unwanted by their impoverished mothers, but also unwanted by the Establishment.  Planned Parenthood was founded in racism and fascism.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2018, 02:26:02 AM »
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They generally do, so yeah... I do expect that actually.

Speaking of the welfare state and immigrants, you do realise they are not given welfare here in the States, right? We barely provide our own citizens welfare...

I agree.  Immigrants do generally pay their taxes, are less likely to claim welfare (they come here seeking work), and are generally more law-abiding than the average citizen.

I do not fear immigration.  I do want it to be more broadly-based though.  Most immigrants from TRotW are more skilled and educated than most citizens.  Let them come and join us...
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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2018, 02:38:02 AM »
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I agree.  Immigrants do generally pay their taxes, are less likely to claim welfare (they come here seeking work), and are generally more law-abiding than the average citizen.

I do not fear immigration.  I do want it to be more broadly-based though.  Most immigrants from TRotW are more skilled and educated than most citizens.  Let them come and join us...

I also welcome legal immigration, particularly of valuable future citizens.  Urban terrorists, not so much.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2018, 02:55:45 AM »
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I also welcome legal immigration, particularly of valuable future citizens.  Urban terrorists, not so much.

Last I checked, Democrats were also against allowing terrorists into the country.  Do you have the SLIGHTEST bit of evidence to the contrary?

I/we want teachers, scientists, engineers, artists, etc from anywhere in the world to come here.  Any skilled people, anyone willing to work.  From anywhere...  In fact, the more "anywheres" the better.

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Offline Baruch

Re: The Bankrupt Welfare State:
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2018, 03:03:02 AM »
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Last I checked, Democrats were also against allowing terrorists into the country.  Do you have the SLIGHTEST bit of evidence to the contrary?

I/we want teachers, scientists, engineers, artists, etc from anywhere in the world to come here.  Any skilled people, anyone willing to work.  From anywhere...  In fact, the more "anywheres" the better.

All Democrats are terrorists .. as are all Republicans.  Charlie Wilson's War is bipartisan.  Why not?  Since all Americans are terrorists ...
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