So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm

Started by Minimalist, December 13, 2018, 07:21:51 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on January 03, 2019, 05:36:08 AM
The EU was created by globalist.

The European Union’s Secret History

But Globalism was the neo-lib/neo-con strategy from 1946 going forward.  Are you saying old policies lose relevance to the point where they are counterproductive?  That everything changed in 1991, but the Establishment couldn't comprehend it.

Certainly Soros is part of MI6 etc. just like George H W Bush was a part of CIA.

The War on Terror has been a bust.  And a war with Russia isn't worth thinking about.  Generals always fighting the last war.
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Don't do that.

Mr.Obvious

Quote from: Baruch on January 03, 2019, 06:14:34 AM
Hope you didn't put all your money in German banks.  Looks like they are the new Enron.  I learned Russian in HS, it was't so bad.

Well, the only way to not be part of the Turkish Caliphate, is to be a Russian colony.  How about a Democratic Socialist Belgium?

Remember, I am not anti-anyone, except stupidity will earn its Darwin awards.  Certainly not anti-Russian or anti-Turkish.

It is possible that everything European is downhill from 1914, though I hope not.  Nietzsche and Marx may be the death of them.

In any case, time for the US to leave Nato.  We can't afford to subsidize European fantasies.

The Europeans do need to be under occupation of someone, if not the US, then Russia or Turkey will do fine.

North Sea petroleum is in decline.  Russia can supply now, Turkey ... maybe in the future after annexation of Cyprus and Greece.

You know, if you said things in a way that they make sense, it would be a lot easier for the people you're talking to, to help build a constructive conversation.
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Minimalist

So the Irish and Germans don't seem impressed with Ms. May.
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Baruch

Quote from: Mr.Obvious on January 03, 2019, 07:16:44 AM
You know, if you said things in a way that they make sense, it would be a lot easier for the people you're talking to, to help build a constructive conversation.

Constructive conversation?  Not you personally ... but the EU is an enemy of the US.  That is why you have been under military occupation.  We should nuke you, but the Islamists and the Russians make that unnecessary.

The US didn't "save" W Europe in 1945 ... for the W Europeans.  It was to colonize you vs being like E Europe colonized by the Russians.  With the end of the Soviet Union, the EU got uppity ;-)

Without the Marshall Plan (not part of the original post-war plan) then W Europe would have chosen the Warsaw Pact over Nato for good reason.  Couldn't have that.  The US wasn't even wanting to bail out post-war Britain (much to the angst of the Brits).  No reason for us to subsidize the Labor party.
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Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 12:54:42 PM
So the Irish and Germans don't seem impressed with Ms. May.

Well Thatcher knew how to cut off Argentine cohones.  But that is exceptional, with any PM, of any sex.

I don't envy the shit sandwich she was handed by Brexit ... probably nobody in Britain could have been all Tory party-minded, politically correct, slavish to the Franco-German Axis and a quisling, all in the same package ;-)
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Minimalist

Bwahahaha!  It seems the lemmings are lining up to go over the cliff!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/world/europe/brexit-no-deal-conservatives.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

QuoteBritish Conservatives, in No Mood for Compromise, Embrace ‘No Deal’ Brexit



The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Hydra009

What's the explain-it-like-I'm-five version?  No brexit deal = ?

Mr.Obvious

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Quote from: Hydra009 on January 03, 2019, 08:59:43 PM
What's the explain-it-like-I'm-five version?  No brexit deal = ?

Hard border between ireland and northern ireland.
Trading under more expensive WTO trading rules with european countries. (They are about 10% of our market, we range between 45% to 55% of theirs.) making things more expensive. Also for them, until they create new arangements: dealing with all partners in the world under less favorable WTO trading rules and tariffs as their current agreements are based off their membership of the EU. Not indefinitely problematic but an immeadiate concern that could have reprocussions for months to years.
All manner of possible major reprocussions on econimical level because of this. Due to parts and goods needing to cross borders multiple times, this will be A problem for international compagnies. Especially problematic concerning Europe-centric producing corporations.
I expect devaluation of both the pound and THE euro.
Custom checks will be reinstated further Amping THE price and delivery time of fresh foods especially.

Pro Side:
Brexit means Brexit. So they'll havefull control over their money. (That small part that went to THE EU budget.) they'll have full control over their borders (hence THE above menioned consequences). And they'll have full control over their laws, not just THE control they already had, but also regarding migration and product-quality. Of course, if they want tot trade with other countries, they are still going to have to find common ground.

Real easy version;
Shit's gonna get more expensive for both Britts and europeans.
Everyone employed in an international compagny Should look into reschooling themselves as customs officers.
"If we have to go down, we go down together!"
- Your mum, last night, requesting 69.

Atheist Mantis does not pray.

Baruch

Quote from: Minimalist on January 03, 2019, 08:52:03 PM
Bwahahaha!  It seems the lemmings are lining up to go over the cliff!

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/03/world/europe/brexit-no-deal-conservatives.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

They are as slippery as never-Trump Republicans.  You never know what they will do next.  Is Romney the putative Republican Presidential candidate for 2020?
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Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
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Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: Minimalist on December 29, 2018, 08:12:28 PM
Yes, I am.  And now living out in fucking Arizona with a shitload of midwesterners who got tired of shoveling snow.

And so am I.  Grew up in Massachusetts, got dragged kicking and screaming to VA age 10-13 where I was forced to regurgitate "The South Shall Rise Again" to pass my VA history classes. and then was (moderately) mercifully surrendered to MD.  Which became a liberal/progressive State while I was there, so I stayed.

And here I are...  ;)
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pr126


Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on January 05, 2019, 12:12:42 PM
Find out why Soros is not the only who sees the END of the EU!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYBsw810vpk

OK. Might you notice that that isn't what Soros actually said but rather what some OTHER person said he said?  Just checking.
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Minimalist

Romney is a bullshit artist.  In that he is no different from the WLB.
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Minimalist

My sense is that pr pisses himself at night fearing that George Soros is hiding under his bed.

Grow up, son.  The man has better things to do than worry about idiots like you.
The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails.

-- H. L. Mencken

Cavebear

Quote from: Minimalist on January 05, 2019, 12:53:14 PM
Romney is a bullshit artist.  In that he is no different from the WLB.

Spare us the acronyms unless you tell stupid people like me what they mean first...  Look it up online and the possibilities are endless.

But yes, Romney is a bullshit artist just as 90% of Republicans and half the Democrats are.
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