Author Topic: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm  (Read 25638 times)

Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1005 on: February 10, 2020, 08:44:16 PM »
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When does Iceland join the EU to fill the power vacuum? They've had legal beer for nearly a decade now. That should qualify them.

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Iceland hates Globalists more than anyone, since 2008 Iceland banking crisis.  They actually jailed people, unlike the US/Germany.  So why would they become slaves of George Soros?  The proper filling of the power vacuum is for Russia to join the EU, who will then tell Germany and France to STFU.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1006 on: February 10, 2020, 08:52:00 PM »
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Also, when the EU formed, there was included a process for leaving that nobody thought anyone would actually use.  When the UK formed, nobody imagined a process for leaving.

Still, it would be fun to let Scotland vote and see what happens.

However, most Scottish land isn't owned by Scots, but by the Queen, English lords and foreign oligarchs.

"HALF of Scotland is owned by just 500 people, few of whom are actually Scots. As Britain's great land-owning aristocratic families decline, a new breed of foreign laird is exploiting Scotland's arcane land laws to buy up tracts of the Highlands and islands - Europe's last great wilderness."

"It has been estimated that fewer than 500 people own half of all privately-owned land in Scotland. That is one of the highest concentrations of land ownership in Europe."

"The Crown owns four estates that cover 37,000 hectares of land on mainland Scotland." aka 92,500 acres.

"Scotland's two most powerful private landowners – the Danish clothing billionaire Anders Holch Povlsen and his wife Anne; and the Duke of Buccleuch – each own more than 80,000 ha (200,000 acres), spread across multiple properties."
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1007 on: February 13, 2020, 03:43:33 PM »
"London Times Says Embracing Traditional Gender Roles Is A Form Of ISIS-Style Extremism" ... this is hate speech in the UK ... Islam is unmentionable and unobjectionable.  But any non-Muslim can be targeted.  The proper comparison would compare traditional gender roles to Nazism.  Nobody objects to that.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1008 on: February 17, 2020, 01:02:35 PM »
"The Death Of Free Speech: Zuckerberg Asks Governments For Instructions On "What Discourse Should Be Allowed"" ... specifically EU and GB. GB did Brexit because they wanted a different police state than the EU wants.
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Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1009 on: February 20, 2020, 12:55:08 PM »
Post brexit immigration will be with a point system if you want to come and work and live there.
70 points to pass.
Being able to speak English, 10 points. Having a job offer, 20 points etc. Interesting take to say the least, worries amongst certain groups of businesses. Others cheering it on.
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Offline Hydra009

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1010 on: February 20, 2020, 01:10:50 PM »
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Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain, and now they're being forced to leave against their wishes.  There is simply no justification to deny them a say on the matter.  If the rest of the UK can convince them to vote to remain in union, there you go.  If not, oh well, you brought that on yourselves.

Generally speaking, I tend to support self-determination.  I believe states have the right to secede from the US as well.
I dunno if I'd go that far.
Democracy inherently produces dissenting groups from the prevailing consensus.  Hell, I live in a blue county in a red state in a country that periodically bounces back and forth.

That said, if Scotland were to have another referrendum...

Well, let's just say that it'd be pretty odd for Brexiters to advocate for self-rule as a rationalization for pulling away from the EU and then oppose the same rationale for pulling away from the UK.
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Offline trdsf

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1011 on: February 20, 2020, 05:06:50 PM »
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Well, let's just say that it'd be pretty odd for Brexiters to advocate for self-rule as a rationalization for pulling away from the EU and then oppose the same rationale for pulling away from the UK.
Pretty much.  There aren't really any arguments for Brexit that don't also support Scottish independence, just substitute 'Westminster' for 'Brussels'.
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1012 on: February 20, 2020, 05:27:49 PM »
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Pretty much.  There aren't really any arguments for Brexit that don't also support Scottish independence, just substitute 'Westminster' for 'Brussels'.

And why all of Europe should return to tribes and city states.  Bring back Etruscan!
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1013 on: February 20, 2020, 05:30:03 PM »
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Post brexit immigration will be with a point system if you want to come and work and live there.
70 points to pass.
Being able to speak English, 10 points. Having a job offer, 20 points etc. Interesting take to say the least, worries amongst certain groups of businesses. Others cheering it on.

Labour and Tories, with support of the EU, are all guilty of importing low skill workers, both from EU or Eastern Europe, but also the new "refugees" from 2015 onward.  This suppression of work and wages among blue-collar workers is something middle class Londoners don't care about.  But is why Labour is now in trouble with blue-collar workers who used to be rock solid for them.  The same thing has happened in the US, since Reagan, and is bipartisan.  The "coasts/metros" in the US are like London.
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Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1014 on: February 20, 2020, 05:34:49 PM »
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Post brexit immigration will be with a point system if you want to come and work and live there.
70 points to pass.
Being able to speak English, 10 points. Having a job offer, 20 points etc. Interesting take to say the least, worries amongst certain groups of businesses. Others cheering it on.

Cheap labour forces will be stumped, their have to do the unthinkable, and actually hire people at a living wage
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1015 on: February 20, 2020, 05:46:37 PM »
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Cheap labour forces will be stumped, their have to do the unthinkable, and actually hire people at a living wage

That is unthinkable, because we are divided into classes with class interests (Marx) and because of the Queen of France (let them eat quiche).
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Offline Baruch

Re: So It Seems That Brexit Has Become a Category 5 Shitstorm
« Reply #1016 on: February 24, 2020, 12:53:47 AM »
"The Bogus Big Brother-Big Tech Brawl Over Backdoors" ... a few years ago, the FBI did have to hire a "cracker" outfit to take encrypted data off of a cell phone that is evidence in a crime.  Maybe Apple agreed with China, that causes the authorities East and West, too much trouble ;-)  But this is why you don't want HUAWEI or any other company controlled by the Chinese communist party, to control your telecom equipment.  GB thinks that HUAWEI only selling phones but not switches, isn't much of a problem.  Problem is you can intercept communications at the phone, not just at the switch.  Letting the Chinese communist party control your cell phones, just makes China's job harder, not impossible.
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