Author Topic: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!  (Read 1773 times)

Offline pr126

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2018, 12:42:32 AM »
Not just in Europe.

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a) Enact, implement or maintain legislation that penalizes hate crimes and aggravated hate
crimes targeting migrants, and train law enforcement and other public officials to identify,
prevent and respond to such crimes and other acts of violence that target migrants, as well
as to provide medical, legal and psychosocial assistance for victims
b) Empower migrants and communities to denounce any acts of incitement to violence
directed towards migrants by informing them of available mechanisms for redress, and
ensure that those who actively participate in the commission of a hate crime targeting
migrants are held accountable, in accordance with national legislation, while upholding
international human rights law, in particular the right to freedom of expression
c) Promote independent, objective and quality reporting of media outlets, including internetbased
information, including by sensitizing and educating media professionals on
migration-related issues and terminology, investing in ethical reporting standards and
advertising, and stopping allocation of public funding or material support to media outlets
that systematically promote intolerance, xenophobia, racism and other forms of
discrimination towards migrants, in full respect for the freedom of the media

d) Establish mechanisms to prevent, detect and respond to racial, ethnic and religious profiling
of migrants by public authorities, as well as systematic instances of intolerance,
xenophobia, racism and all other multiple and intersecting forms of discrimination in
partnership with National Human Rights Institutions, including by tracking and publishing
trends analyses, and ensuring access to effective complaint and redress mechanisms
e) Provide migrants, especially migrant women, with access to national and regional
complaint and redress mechanisms with a view to promoting accountability and addressing
governmental actions related to discriminatory acts and manifestations carried out against
migrants and their families
f) Promote awareness-raising campaigns targeted at communities of origin, transit and
destination in order to inform public perceptions regarding the positive contributions of safe,
orderly and regular migration, based on evidence and facts, and to end racism, xenophobia
and stigmatization against all migrants
g) Engage migrants, political, religious and community leaders, as well as educators and
service providers to detect and prevent incidences of intolerance, racism, xenophobia, and
other forms of discrimination against migrants and diasporas and support activities in local
communities to promote mutual respect, including in the context of electoral campaigns


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Offline Shiranu

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2018, 01:01:49 AM »
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I'm actually kinda hoping this is true, if for no other reason than to cut down on the fearmongering spam.  :P

We could give the migrants jobs building the prisons and working as wardens as well! Kill two birds with one stone.
"The ancients still want to speak to us, we've just forgotten the language.

Offline pr126

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2018, 01:16:55 AM »
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"Countries that import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world"ο»Ώ

« Last Edit: December 05, 2018, 01:20:41 AM by pr126 »

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2018, 01:32:11 AM »
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Its not nice to make ad hominem where children are born like this. Maybe use your own brain next time for a clever quip.

Interesting rebuke. It wasn't an ad hominem. It literally went over your head. You didn't understand what I was saying. I'm saying that the thing you said was like an acknowledgement of the sheer ridiculousness of the claim that pr/pr's video claims, but then somehow embraces the absurdism as reality.

The ad hominem, if you want it, you can self apply it.

Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2018, 07:39:38 AM »
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We could give the migrants jobs building the prisons and working as wardens as well! Kill two birds with one stone.

That is American.  The Brits are too kind for that.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2018, 07:42:07 AM »
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Let me explain where you went wrong, Munch. Pickle was commenting on how the lack of jail space should indicate to you how seriously (or rather, not) you should be taking PR's post. Now, given we are talking about a man who thinks he has Muslims under his bed and feminists in his closet, a man who has at best a very slim grasp on reality, do you think that perhaps maybe, just maybe, PR's claim in this thread should be taken with a massive grain of salt?

Let the French imprison them on their side of the channel.  Same as the US ... let Mexico jail the caravaners.
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Online Munch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2018, 10:05:33 AM »
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I'm actually kinda hoping this is true, if for no other reason than to cut down on the fearmongering spam.  :P

I can assure you it won't do, infact it will have the opposite effect by trying to force people to conform to one way of thinking, instead of letting it happen naturally

Forcing a social or political view just leads to defiance of said view, where as the underdog building themselves up from ground level builds better foundations for ideas and standards
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Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2018, 11:37:38 AM »
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I can assure you it won't do, infact it will have the opposite effect by trying to force people to conform to one way of thinking, instead of letting it happen naturally

Forcing a social or political view just leads to defiance of said view, where as the underdog building themselves up from ground level builds better foundations for ideas and standards

You are defining socialist propaganda ... given the virtue signaling.
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Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2018, 01:03:56 PM »
People are fucking fleeing mass murder and pr and munch are more worried about a law that doesn't exist and realistically can't even exist.

Extreme right wing in a nutshell. Emphasis on the nut.

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2018, 01:11:10 PM »
Btw. Did you know obama is cumming for our gunz?

Offline drunkenshoe

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #25 on: December 05, 2018, 01:28:21 PM »
He perfectly knows it can't happen.

For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.   

What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely-  is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.



   
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Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #26 on: December 05, 2018, 04:32:53 PM »
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He perfectly knows it can't happen.

For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.   

What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely-  is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.



   
Yeah, but why would right wingers take more than 2 seconds to think about that?

Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2018, 06:14:27 PM »
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People are fucking fleeing mass murder and pr and munch are more worried about a law that doesn't exist and realistically can't even exist.

Extreme right wing in a nutshell. Emphasis on the nut.

Let them move in with you.  Increase tax rate on Communists, to pay for it, tax at 100% rate.  Let them eat SNAP cards.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #28 on: December 05, 2018, 06:15:08 PM »
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Btw. Did you know obama is cumming for our gunz?

CIA/FBI ... coming for guns.  D and R party are slaves of Deep State.  If you can assassinate JFK, you can do anything you want.
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Offline Baruch

Re: Criticizing Migration Will Be ILLEGAL In Europe?!?!
« Reply #29 on: December 05, 2018, 06:18:22 PM »
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He perfectly knows it can't happen.

For a 'law' of that kind to be made, they would need to conflict with the fundamental bases of Western Constitutions in legal terms. Which means, even if it was officially planned, proposed, voted AND accepted it wouldn't work. Because it would be against the constitution. Meaning, can't pass the basic requirements of the law, according to the law.   

What could technically happen at most -highly unlikely-  is that people who uses media organs to make open, organised propaganda against a specific minority could be sued in some sort of civil court on 'purposefully provoking hatred/violence against a minority' WHICH I pretty much doubt would happen in Europe. Neo Nazi organisations wouldn't survive in Germany to begin with if that was the case.



 

Can't speak to Germany.  There is no US constitution since 1950 (no declaration of war).  The actual method to take guns or anything else, is IRS (guilty until proven innocent).  The IRS is a total violation of the US constitution, but in 1930s, they thought this would only be used against Al Capone.  Now everyone in the US is Al Capone.  So basically, you get taxed (Roberts court decided that any tax at any level is ... constitutional).  The SCOTUS has made a whole series of decisions as bad as Dred Scott.
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