Ocasio-Cortez + Liberals Believing Conservatives About What Liberals Believe/Do

Started by Shiranu, November 15, 2018, 05:18:53 PM

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Baruch

Quote from: Munch on November 16, 2018, 06:37:45 AM
That's not the power puff girls, that's just a sad parody.

Those aren't intellectuals, those are just sad NPCs.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

pr126

Free Medicare for all, free education, free housing, AND open borders.




Baruch

Quote from: pr126 on November 16, 2018, 08:24:23 AM
Free Medicare for all, free education, free housing, AND open borders.

Utopia ... and all the atheists cried ... AMEN!

Becoming clear that PM May has committed treason ... her deal would allow the EU to control all the external relations of GB, without any protest-ability from the Parliament.  Brexit without any substance.  Guy Fawkes anyone?
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Unbeliever

God Not Found
"There is a sucker born-again every minute." - C. Spellman

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on November 16, 2018, 08:24:23 AM
Free Medicare for all, free education, free housing, AND open borders.





What a horrible world that sounds like.
"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Baruch

Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Baruch

Quote from: Shiranu on November 16, 2018, 03:31:47 PM
What a horrible world that sounds like.

I know, you are Trotsky reincarnated.  Just watch out for any guys named ... Stalin!!

Conservatives in the US are now calling to end HS, and replace it with internships in the capitalist economy.  Usually internships these days are unpaid, so what they are saying is .. child labor, without pay aka child slavery.  Too bad it won't be at the hands of your beloved Lenin.  Basically extending our corrupt prison system to the general population.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Shiranu

Quote from: pr126 on November 16, 2018, 05:05:15 AM
She is still an airhead. Just like her voters.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GzSx-JqHZ8

So far in this thread you are two for two on posts with personal attacks, one against someone you disagree with by mocking her name and one against her and anyone who agrees with her, and both times you have failed to actually back up said insults with any sort of argument or even defense of said insults.

"A little science distances you from God, but a lot of science brings you nearer to Him." - Louis Pasteur

Cavebear

Quote from: Unbeliever on November 15, 2018, 07:01:51 PM
We could just borrow the money from Jeff Bezos, since he makes $3183.33 every second. I think he could afford it.

What a rare person earns does not really make much difference in the long run.

$3183.33 per second would be $1,673,158,248 per year.  Even if he gave ALL that to the Govt, it wouldn't matter much.  And he can't even spend it all.  What is he going to do, buy Mexico?  No offense to Mexico, it just came to mind. 
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Baruch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 17, 2018, 12:14:52 AM
What a rare person earns does not really make much difference in the long run.

$3183.33 per second would be $1,673,158,248 per year.  Even if he gave ALL that to the Govt, it wouldn't matter much.  And he can't even spend it all.  What is he going to do, buy Mexico?  No offense to Mexico, it just came to mind.

Must all become billionaires ... in Zimbabwe money.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.

Cavebear

Quote from: pr126 on November 16, 2018, 08:24:23 AM
Free Medicare for all, free education, free housing, AND open borders.

Nothing that costs anything is free, so don't write nonsensical statements.  What you are objecting to is SHARED costs for health care, education, housing, And open borders.

First, shared costs is the basis for all health care.  We already do that, inefficiently, through commercial health insurance.  We could do more, better, by expanding that and cutting out the profit centers.  And if you want to scream that profit centers are good and should never die, I will start a candle business and claim recompense from the electric companies.

Second, education is generally considered a benefit to society.  An educated populace is a benefit to all of us.  Yes, there are private basic K-12 schools, but studies show they do worse overall at educating and cost more.

Third, housing is a basic demand for all people.  Everyone has to be "somewhere" and a home of any sort makes people more legal and less likely to feel forced to commit crimes to survive.

Open borders are a different thing entirely.  I agree that any nation has a right to control it's borders and immigration.  That doesn't mean tricking people seeking asylum into crossing borders illegally and taking away their children.  We brought much of that on ourselves by eliminating the abiilty of immigrants to apply for asylum at embassies and consulates.  That was a mean dirty trick that leads to illegal crossings.

And you should consider that the US is facing a lack of workers to do jobs citizens will not apply for.  We NEED immigrants.  They are willing to start by working at the bottom.  Do YOU want to clean hotel toilets?  Do YOU want to pick grapes?  They will.  And their children will be just like us: doctors, lawyers, and store-owners.

Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

Munch

Quote from: Cavebear on November 17, 2018, 03:20:04 AM


And you should consider that the US is facing a lack of workers to do jobs citizens will not apply for.  We NEED immigrants.  They are willing to start by working at the bottom.  Do YOU want to clean hotel toilets?  Do YOU want to pick grapes?  They will.  And their children will be just like us: doctors, lawyers, and store-owners.

Heard this claim many a time before. But what do you do, when said immigrants aren't even prepared to do that, and moved to another country on the belief of a free benefit system without doing the work?
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

pr126

Why would I pay an American $15.00 an hour when I can get a migrant to do the same job for $7.50?

Immigrants are people who enter America legally.

[Economic] Migrants are who cross the border illegaly.

See the dfference?

Munch

Quote from: pr126 on November 17, 2018, 04:27:09 AM
Why would I pay an American $15.00 an hour when I can get a migrant to do the same job for $7.50?

Immigrants are people who enter America legally.

[Economic] Migrants are who cross the border illegaly.

See the dfference?

Yeah, the line can be blurred sometimes.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/legal-immigrants-vs-illegal-immigrants-cutting-line/

Interesting read, illigals fucking things up for legal migration. Why is it fair to have people who respect the country their moving to enough to apply for a visa be cast off because some disrespectful asshats don't even care enough to do that?

If the person trying to move to that country won't ever fill out paperwork, that country owes them nothing.
'Political correctness is fascism pretending to be manners' - George Carlin

Baruch

Quote from: Munch on November 17, 2018, 04:22:06 AM
Heard this claim many a time before. But what do you do, when said immigrants aren't even prepared to do that, and moved to another country on the belief of a free benefit system without doing the work?

This is why the 19th century was necessary, and why we have to return to the 19th century ... colonize them over there, so they don't colonize us over here.
Ha’át’íísh baa naniná?
Azee’ Å,a’ish nanídį́į́h?
Táadoo ánít’iní.
What are you doing?
Are you taking any medications?
Don't do that.