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Offline pr126

ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« on: October 26, 2018, 11:02:39 AM »
She picked the wrong religion to blaspheme.
Blaspheming any other religion would go unnoticed.

According to Muslim sources, Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 years old and consummated the marriage when she was 9. He was 54 yrs old.
Muslims get very touchy about that.
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Sahih Bukhari

Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234

Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13) Volume 8, Book 73, Number 151

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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 01:16:54 PM »
Isn't this about the Ireland vote?  I understand that it is still a crime in Ireland to commit blasphemy.
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Offline pr126

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 01:23:11 PM »
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Isn't this about the Ireland vote?  I understand that it is still a crime in Ireland to commit blasphemy.
An Austrian woman. Not Ireland.
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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 01:26:15 PM »
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An Austrian woman. Not Ireland.

In the video.  I am surprised you are ignoring Ireland.
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Offline pr126

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2018, 01:56:10 PM »
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In the video.  I am surprised you are ignoring Ireland.

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I understood from the video that the person in question was an Austrian woman. 36 seconds into the video.
 
There probably is blasphemy law in Ireland. I don't know or care. But I do not think that any other religion is protected except Islam. That is planet-wide.
Islam is cannot be criticized, questioned or discussed in a negative way in the public square.
Anonymously, privately perhaps, with caution.


Unless one is looking for trouble. Let's say it: We are afraid of Islam. 


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Online Shiranu

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 04:37:46 PM »
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But I do not think that any other religion is protected except Islam. That is planet-wide.

Italy just recently had a football player fined and suspended for blasphemy, which is an offense under Italian law. In Thailand even making jokes about the king, who is held as a divine (they are given the title "Rama", one of the avatars of Vishnu), can land you in jail. India still has blasphemy laws on the books after a Hindu nationalist began attempting to aggressively convert Muslims, Christians, Buddhists and the other mass of religions located in India. While it's not "illegal", blasphemy against Jews in Israel would be very much... unadvised. Greece just a few years back gave a man a 10-month sentence for posting on facebook a picture of a revered Orthodox monk as a Pastafarian monk, and historically have used their blasphemy laws to protect the Orthodox Church.

Bar Israel, these are all examples of actual laws on the books, and multiple countries (such as Poland, Russia, Finland, Spain, etc.) have laws on the books that, with the right leaders in charge, would allow the legal persecution of people who blasphemy against the state religion. Brasil also has these laws and, as you are well aware given your support of him, are on the verge of electing someone who believes the previous dictatorial regime was not harsh enough and is backed by Christian fundamentalists.

These are also all of course examples of legal persecution for blasphemy; while it may not be state mandated, I would not want to be in Colombia, Venezuela, Chile, Peru, Mexico, Croatia, Serbia, etc. and make negative remarks about Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy. The state may not punish you for it, but the people most certainly not take it so well.
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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 07:22:20 PM »
But ... but ... in the Austrian case ... isn't that prosecuted as a hate crime, not as blasphemy?  I can see almost anything being designated a hate crime, and Europe has many laws against hate crime.
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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2018, 08:03:04 PM »
Headline for pr126!

"Irish Singer Sinead O'Connor Converts To Islam" ... feminists, you never know what crazy thing they will do next.
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Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2018, 11:47:16 PM »
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Headline for pr126!

"Irish Singer Sinead O'Connor Converts To Islam" ... feminists, you never what crazy thing they will do next.

Yes, I read it.
Notice the cultural imperialism. The change to an Arabic name. The change of clothing. The prayer towards Mekka which is in (Saudi) Arabia. The complete rejection of the previous culture, customs.

Islam is an Arabic supremacist religion.

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Shuhada’, who underwent intensive mental health treatment in the U.S. last year with help from Dr. Phil, posted a video of herself singing the Azan, the Muslim call to prayer. Her voice is still in fine form, but she lamented her performance.

Say no more. Islam recruits only the best.

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And I’m an ugly old hag. But I’m a very, very, very happy old hag,” Shuhada’ proclaimed….
Well, dear, I hope you will like it. Islam respects women. Read Quran 4:34.
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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2018, 01:41:53 AM »
Real politik.  Goes back to British involvement with Arabs, and subsequent American involvement with Arabs, both before and after WW II.  The oil, the oil!  We had to tolerate Stalin, but only for 4 years.  So patience with this gambit from 1914 and 1944 wears thin.  Chinese have patience for that.  We must be as patient as the Chinese.  Unless of course it comes time to cross the Rubicon.  But shall we make the French and German mistake of invading Russia?  The Japanese mistake of invading China?
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Offline pr126

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2018, 04:41:54 AM »
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But ... but ... in the Austrian case ... isn't that prosecuted as a hate crime, not as blasphemy?  I can see almost anything being designated a hate crime, and Europe has many laws against hate crime.

This time the gates of Vienna are wide open. Come in, make yourselves at home.

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We welcome our Muslim overlords!
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Offline Baruch

Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2018, 11:24:14 AM »
Pr126, Europe died in 1914, before either of us was born.  The US became walking dead in 1914 also ... but was kept as a zombie by all the money sent to or war products purchased on credit from the US.  The Cold War 1.0 kept the WW II prosperity going for awhile, but that ended eventually ... so Cold War 2.0 has arrived, because Terror War 1.0 was't successful.  Nations are predatory by nature, because people are.  You can be a cheetah or a gazelle.  It is all going tits up, because people aren't nearly as clever as they think they are.

Banking facts show the trend ... English pound (1914) = $5, today $1.28.  But the US dollar 2,267.36% of inflation aka 4.4 cents on the dollar.  So British inflation was 8,856.88 or 1.1 new pence on the new pound.  Formerly 2 pence 2.6 farthings to the old pound.  Given that fact, long term, there is no future for civilization.

Politics and war created this depreciation.  Socialism and militarism created it.  And there is no end to either of those, other than extinction.
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Re: ECHR Says Being Imprisoned for Blasphemy is OK in Europe.
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2018, 10:20:13 AM »
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Headline for pr126!

"Irish Singer Sinead O'Connor Converts To Islam" ... feminists, you never know what crazy thing they will do next.



Sinead O’Connor Needs Help


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