Author Topic: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED  (Read 4117 times)

Online Munch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2018, 10:06:52 PM »
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But really guys, how could a guy like pr, living across the pond and only watches videos that doesn't even cite themselves to support their outrageous claims have any anchor in reality of what happens here in the U.S.?

dunno, how can any of you guys from the US have any anchor to whats happening in europe in things like the migrant crisis?

Doesn't stop you giving thoughts and opinions to it.

The simple fact is for all your slagging off of PR, you haven't been through the kind of political saturation and degradation he did given where he lived and escaped from. Maybe if you did, it might make you sing a different tune and consider how lucky you've had it in a stable country.

Thats got nothing to do with right or left leaning, thats living though something and it changing your outlook.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2018, 10:32:21 PM »
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The rabid right doesn't have a clue about how to be honest, so they assume everybody else is lying too.

Let the Left pass their own lie detector test.  Starting with the liar in chief, Hillary Clinton.
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Offline Baruch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2018, 10:32:59 PM »
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It's what he believes because it's the hard truth, supported by verifiable numbers and documentation, and not some nutjob's youtube channel that doesn't even cite themselves, like you tend to share on here

If the Internet is BS, why are you here then?  Hmm?
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Offline pr126

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2018, 11:29:42 PM »
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If the Internet is BS, why are you here then?  Hmm?
He is defending his fate against heresy. A True Blue.(D)
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Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #49 on: October 21, 2018, 12:28:10 AM »
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dunno, how can any of you guys from the US have any anchor to whats happening in europe in things like the migrant crisis?

Doesn't stop you giving thoughts and opinions to it.

The simple fact is for all your slagging off of PR, you haven't been through the kind of political saturation and degradation he did given where he lived and escaped from. Maybe if you did, it might make you sing a different tune and consider how lucky you've had it in a stable country.

Thats got nothing to do with right or left leaning, thats living though something and it changing your outlook.
Well first of all. I don't normally comment on things in the UK
Second of all, I'm not implying that you "stay out of our business" I'm saying, if you are going to give us a claim, supply some credible info to back it up, not some video of a guy just talking about it without even a simple citing of what he's talking about. It's fucking hearsay. I don't care about hearsay. No one rational gives a flying fuck about that dumb as shit hearsay.
I don't care if you or pr are going to comment on anything regarding the U.S.. Go for it. but for the love of everything sane, start at least citing your god damned hearsay. You are better than he is at it. But you guys have to stop whining about when we call you out on it.

tl;dr no more hearsay and don't whine like a little bitch when we tell you that it's a baseless nonsense shitpost

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #50 on: October 21, 2018, 12:29:03 AM »
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He is defending his fate against heresy. A True Blue.(D)
Heresy? no. Just hearsay.

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #51 on: October 21, 2018, 12:32:03 AM »
I'm not asking for much. Just legitimately cite your fucking posts for once. Holy shit.

Offline pr126

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #52 on: October 21, 2018, 03:17:33 AM »
@ PickelledEggs

Losing your cool?

If you stepped out of your bubble and stopped dismissing everything as garbage that does not agree with your confirmation bias?

When the mainstream media is your only source to the gospel truth and in 2016 the media predicted a 95% Hillary winning the presidency? How did that work out?

When the media and the tech giants are all preventing any ideas to appear contrary to the ALLOWED democrat ideology?
Censoring any opposing content? Just a hint of totalitarianism?

When the indoctrination centers (colleges, universities) are churning out Marxist activist, dumbed down SJW's and Antifa, BLM, Feminist members?

Is that the America you want to live in?

See how Europe is going down the pan. The Dems are planning the same for America.
Open borders, mass migration, Socialism, totalitarianism. A globalist utopia.

The media and the tech giants are already practicing in advance.

BTW, evidence and reason will not sway your worldview. Wasted effort.
If you really wanted that, you would search and find it on your own.

Here is the result of 4years of college at tens of thousands of dollars paid.
Money well spent. Something to be proud about.


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Offline SGOS

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #53 on: October 21, 2018, 04:58:39 AM »
[Why does the left hate white people] is a fallacy of begging the question, wherein a claim is passed off as a question.  It attempts to direct the attention of he addressee away from the merit of the claim:  "Please answer the question [Why?].  Don't question the claim [Left hates white people]"  It's a cheap attempt to semantically trick the addressee into accepting an unsupported claim.  The question is actually irrelevant.

In this case, the claim is largely incorrect as it only describes a cherry picked and imagined number of individuals which it then incorrectly identifies as "the left."  It also redirects the discussion away from the question, "Why does the right hate white people?  (note the left is largely white).   In addition, it introduces the specter of racism, which irrelevant as it is, is actually more of a goal of the right than it is the left (in the US anyway, but maybe less so in Europe).  I could go on, I suppose, but it's a really dumb question with a lot of things wrong with it.

Not to say the invasion of Europe by a foreign culture with different goals for Europe's future is not something to brush aside.  It may indeed result in deep and lasting consequences for white non-Muslim majority that has worked to preserve a cherished way of life.  I hear you.  I actually do.  I understand that fear expressed in the video.   But saying the left hates white people confuses the issue.  And it's absurd.

In the third post of this thread, Blackleaf succinctly addresses the hidden claim of the OP.  I'm adding additional comments since his analysis appears to have been ignored out of hand, probably because the question was not the real objective of the OP in the first place.




Offline drunkenshoe

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #54 on: October 21, 2018, 05:26:06 AM »
There is no material to support anything he posts. There is no historical perspective to begin with. It's political propaganda and a very bad example at that.

It's very similar to the way of 'interpretation', religious people do with written sources of any kind. You people know that very well.   

Even with a material at hand, there is another problem. And a big one. The concepts, names of ideologies...etc people juggle around these issues have very different connotations in Europe and in the United States.

If you are throwing the name of one philosopher and an accumulation of countless different, conflicting critical ideas built around it, which by the way is the accumulation of the knowledge that made Western Civilisation, THE Western Civilisation, as some 'prophet and his religion' you don't have an approach or criticism, you are just babbling.

It's like saying Albert Einstein is a 'genocidal maniac' because he is the 'reason' and the 'cause' for the nuclear attack on Japan. Well, not a very good analogy, but then a suitable one for the sort of minds in question.

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Offline pr126

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #55 on: October 21, 2018, 05:40:29 AM »
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Online Munch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2018, 08:39:38 AM »
This doesn't suit my political agenda! This is fake news!

Offline Baruch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #57 on: October 21, 2018, 08:58:17 AM »
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There is no material to support anything he posts. There is no historical perspective to begin with. It's political propaganda and a very bad example at that.

It's very similar to the way of 'interpretation', religious people do with written sources of any kind. You people know that very well.   

Even with a material at hand, there is another problem. And a big one. The concepts, names of ideologies...etc people juggle around these issues have very different connotations in Europe and in the United States.

If you are throwing the name of one philosopher and an accumulation of countless different, conflicting critical ideas built around it, which by the way is the accumulation of the knowledge that made Western Civilisation, THE Western Civilisation, as some 'prophet and his religion' you don't have an approach or criticism, you are just babbling.

It's like saying Albert Einstein is a 'genocidal maniac' because he is the 'reason' and the 'cause' for the nuclear attack on Japan. Well, not a very good analogy, but then a suitable one for the sort of minds in question.

Sorry.  Your backup is your Continental Philosophy and ideology.  Give us facts about Erdogan etc.
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Offline pr126

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #58 on: October 21, 2018, 08:59:48 AM »

Offline Baruch

Re: The LEFT's beef with white people EXPLAINED
« Reply #59 on: October 21, 2018, 09:01:33 AM »
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This doesn't suit my political agenda! This is fake news!

First they came for my Twitter, but I am not a twit ...
Then they came for my YouTube, but I am not a vidiot ...
Then they came for my Facebook, but by now I had lost face ...

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And nobody is at fault.  A faceless algorithm is targeting thing (that and a huge cadre of human SJW reviewers ... cough, cough).

So how long before all atheist content, all gay content is deleted from the Internet, because Emperor Xi doesn't like it?
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