Erdogan and Autocratic Turkey

[Cavebear]

Cold War, not today.  The French and Germans would be shooting our forces in Europe, in the back.  British socialists also.  Most of Europe is 5th columnists for Karl Marx.

You have such a depressing view of the world.  On the other hand, if it weren't for Russia, I wouldn't want the US to be in Europe either.

[Baruch]

You have such a depressing view of the world.  On the other hand, if it weren't for Russia, I wouldn't want the US to be in Europe either.

Yes, we are the cat's paw of British Imperial policy.  Talley ho!

[Cavebear]

Yes, we are the cat's paw of British Imperial policy.  Talley ho!

British Imperial policy is SO "yesterday".  Except in so many places.

[Baruch]

British Imperial policy is SO "yesterday".  Except in so many places.

The best kind of policy, since Americans have no ideas of their own.

[Cavebear]

The best kind of policy, since Americans have no ideas of their own.

Americans have no ideas.  Right.  Declaration Of Independence, Constitution... 

[Hydra009]

Turkey should be kicked out of NATO today.  They are are autocratic and murderous as all other Middle East nations.  Crazy too.

No kidding.  Even if Turkey didn't have a bunch of horrific internal issues, their foreign diplomacy is abysmal (even by American standards).  Remember when Fumbles shot down a Russian fighter and Vozhd Putin and Caliph Erdogan got into an escalating spat that could've potentially resulted in open war between Turkey and Russia, thereby dragging NATO into war with Russia - imagine for a second nuclear-armed countries exchanging salvos.  Absolutely batshit.

That and Turkish goons brutally attacking Americans on American soil.  It's amazing that any Turkish officials are still allowed in American territory after pulling crap like that.

They say the enemy of my enemy is my friend.  Those people are complete idiots.

[Cavebear]

No kidding.  Even if Turkey didn't have a bunch of horrific internal issues, their foreign diplomacy is abysmal (even by American standards).  Remember when Fumbles shot down a Russian fighter and Vozhd Putin and Caliph Erdogan got into an escalating spat that could've potentially resulted in open war between Turkey and Russia, thereby dragging NATO into war with Russia - imagine for a second nuclear-armed countries exchanging salvos.  Absolutely batshit.

You just HAD to say "even by American standards" , didn't you?    I would object to say we sure damn aren't the worst and better than most. 

[Hydra009]

I would object to say we sure damn aren't the worst and better than most.

Just heading off the inevitable tu quoque "rebuttal".

[Cavebear]

Just heading off the inevitable tu quoque "rebuttal".

You and Baruch should talk a lot more.  Privately.

[Hydra009]

You and Baruch should talk a lot more.

I'd rather slam my car door on my head.

[Cavebear]

I'd rather slam my car door on my head.

Can I help?  And I mean that by just knowing where hood holders are.  (koff, koff)...

[SoldierofFortune]

Let me reveal the reality; Turkland's ruling party AKP were founded with the permission of USA and it is a project party... I mean it services to a project: greater middle east project.

It is understood that -although erdogan is an elected leader- he is working for the usa... It is not a conspiracy theory...

[SoldierofFortune]

Because of the massive disinformation in the usa, i didnt know that americans are not aware of what is going on in the world...

[Cavebear]

Let me reveal the reality; Turkland's ruling party AKP were founded with the permission of USA and it is a project party... I mean it services to a project: greater middle east project.

It is understood that -although erdogan is an elected leader- he is working for the usa... It is not a conspiracy theory...

The sad thing is that Turkey ALMOST became a functioning democracy.  They came SO CLOSE...

[Cavebear]

Because of the massive disinformation in the usa, i didnt know that americans are not aware of what is going on in the world...

We'll get past that...