Author Topic: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.  (Read 579 times)

Offline Hydra009

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2018, 01:10:47 PM »
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But you earlier referred to "a decision made by one side of the political spectrum and criticized by the other, so now it's a partisan issue."

You can't have it both ways...
I have no idea why you're so confused nor do I understand why that's my problem.  But to sum up:  'this has become a partisan issue, but it shouldn't be.' Comprende?

Offline SGOS

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #31 on: September 19, 2018, 01:49:12 PM »
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OK, how many illegal immigrant children do YOU think the Obama Administration detained in 8 years and how many the same do you think Trump did in 20 months?  I'm not even asking for sources.  Just how many would be your best guess.

And I haven't looked it up either.
I've only seen figures for Trump.  I'll guess 10,000.  For Obama, I've got to tell you; I wouldn't have a clue.

I haven't looked it up.

Offline Cavebear

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #32 on: September 19, 2018, 02:40:20 PM »
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I have no idea why you're so confused nor do I understand why that's my problem.  But to sum up:  'this has become a partisan issue, but it shouldn't be.' Comprende?

I don't feel confused about foolish partisanship.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #33 on: September 19, 2018, 02:41:58 PM »
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I've only seen figures for Trump.  I'll guess 10,000.  For Obama, I've got to tell you; I wouldn't have a clue.

I haven't looked it up.

Could it be that there weren't many children separated from their parents in the Obama Administration?
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Offline Munch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #34 on: September 19, 2018, 04:08:28 PM »
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Let's stop pretending like trump created this policy and the migrant children being separated from their patents has only been happening under him, because its been happening for a long time now, and Obama didn't change it. Children were still separated from their parents under him.

Trumps bad because he pushed up the enforcement to be even more rigorous about migrant screening leading to more children and families being separated, sure, trumps Satan in the flesh. But stop acting like he's the only one to have done this and given the okay for it to keep happening.

What trump is doing is bad, but Obama gave him the groundwork
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #35 on: September 19, 2018, 05:05:46 PM »
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Let's stop pretending like trump created this policy and the migrant children being separated from their patents has only been happening under him, because its been happening for a long time now, and Obama didn't change it. Children were still separated from their parents under him.

Trumps bad because he pushed up the enforcement to be even more rigorous about migrant screening leading to more children and families being separated, sure, trumps Satan in the flesh. But stop acting like he's the only one to have done this and given the okay for it to keep happening.

What trump is doing is bad, but Obama gave him the groundwork

Well, you might want to consider the difference being what the law REQUIRES and what the law ALLOWS and recognize that what Trump does is the maximum.
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Offline Munch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #36 on: September 19, 2018, 05:13:57 PM »
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Well, you might want to consider the difference being what the law REQUIRES and what the law ALLOWS and recognize that what Trump does is the maximum.

I'm not arguing that fact. Despite you thinking otherwise, I'm as much against trump and consider him a wanker as anyone else. I just don't put all of lifes blames on him for other peoples suffering, since its not that simple.

Offline Cavebear

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2018, 05:41:41 PM »
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I'm not arguing that fact. Despite you thinking otherwise, I'm as much against trump and consider him a wanker as anyone else. I just don't put all of lifes blames on him for other peoples suffering, since its not that simple.

Well, OK.  That changes what I THOUGHT you were discussing.  Sorry we got confused about it.

I don't blame Trump for being a hare-brained paranoid megalomaniac lunatic.  There are lots of people like that in the world.  I just blame the dumbasses who voted for him for President.  It just wouldn't have been hard to find someone better (and that's a low bar), is all I'm saying.  Maybe someone with a bit of domestic political experience, some time in the Senate to know how it worked, a small time knowing what is in the Constitution, and maybe even some international experience dealing with our allies and our enemies.  That sort of thing.

Oh wait, that would have been the other candidate.  Darn...
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Offline Baruch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2018, 07:08:58 PM »
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I don't feel confused about foolish partisanship.

That is why you will make a good Chief of Gestapo ... or KGB.

"Chicago Set To Offer $350 Million ObamaLand Center 99-Year Lease For Just $10" ... yes, just another wanker.  But OK if you are Dem.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #39 on: September 19, 2018, 08:19:07 PM »
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Mostly I'm opposed to you though, because I value reasonable balance of ideas rather then screeching one track single minded social and political views.




It's funny that you think I dislike you because you are to the right of me, when I don't even view you as right wing.
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Offline Baruch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #40 on: September 19, 2018, 08:36:18 PM »
Pot calling the kettle black?  In that case we are all minority victims ... wah.
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Offline Cavebear

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #41 on: September 23, 2018, 01:15:11 PM »
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Pot calling the kettle black?  In that case we are all minority victims ... wah.

More like calling the octogoons black.  Actually, you would think the caucasians would claim anyone they could these days.  A few more years, and Clarence Thomas will be an honorary New Englander... 
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Offline Baruch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #42 on: September 23, 2018, 01:33:59 PM »
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More like calling the octogoons black.  Actually, you would think the caucasians would claim anyone they could these days.  A few more years, and Clarence Thomas will be an honorary New Englander...

Well ... he was accused by the Left of being sexy to a coworker.  But I don't think he has been accused of rape.  The actual truth is that African-Americans who rise in the political arena ... are Uncle Toms.  See Cornell West.
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Offline Cavebear

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« Reply #43 on: September 23, 2018, 01:50:14 PM »
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Well ... he was accused by the Left of being sexy to a coworker.  But I don't think he has been accused of rape.  The actual truth is that African-Americans who rise in the political arena ... are Uncle Toms.  See Cornell West.

Making a subordinate watch porn is not "sexy".
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Offline Baruch

Re: 13,000 Immigrant Children Detained in U.S.
« Reply #44 on: September 23, 2018, 01:51:49 PM »
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Making a subordinate watch porn is not "sexy".

I was trying to be "non explicit".  Yes, bosses can be dicks.  Even women bosses.
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