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Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« on: September 14, 2018, 07:58:17 AM »
Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

Regards
DL

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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2018, 09:02:45 AM »
Genesis doesn't mention Satan, just a talking snake with legs.



Snakes are pretty cool, though. Very low-maintenance pets, too. You feed them once and they're good for a week.
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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2018, 12:03:34 PM »
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Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?
Who would win in a fight, Zeus or Odin?

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2018, 12:29:20 PM »
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Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

Regards
DL
What a good comic book idea--maybe you could sell Dell or Marvel on the concept and have some comics published. 

Curious--in your crazy comic book universe, isn't god supposed to be the first and last creator of all that is, was, and will be??  He, then, must have created satan--and he knew what satan would or would not do.  So, satan had nothing to do with it really and was simply a conduit thru which god worked his will.  But since it is all fiction, you can have the story go as you wish.
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent,
Is he able but not willing?
Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able or willing?
Then why call him god?

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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2018, 12:42:24 PM »
Well, the Genesis sin is an elliptical description of human sex.  The snake being then and now, a metaphor for a certain male member.
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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2018, 01:14:37 PM »
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Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

Regards
DL

Huh? I agree that the Serpent is the hero of the story, but it didn't have anything to do with love. It had to do with knowledge. God created Adam and Eve as ignorant beings who would be totally reliant on God to provide for them. The forbidden fruit offered Adam and Eve knowledge, which made them no longer reliant on God. To prevent them from becoming gods like himself, Yahweh prevented them from eating from the tree that would grant them eternal life. What does this story have to do with love? After eating from the tree of knowledge, Adam threw Eve under the bus, and Eve blamed the Serpent. That didn't seem very loving. And certainly, God lying to Adam and Eve and causing them to die and experience pain (as well as cursing the entire planet) wasn't loving either.

Some experts think that the story of the Fall was an analogy of the discovery of agriculture. Whereas before, mankind was reliant on God/nature to provide for them, they acquired knowledge and invented agriculture. This required more work, but it also had its advantages.
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Born under one law, to another bound;
Vainly begot, and yet forbidden vanity,
Created sick, commanded to be sound."
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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2018, 01:17:42 PM »
The consequence of the Fall, is agriculture.  And it does have its problems.  But the Fall itself, usually is seasonal.
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Offline Shiranu

Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2018, 02:06:22 PM »
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Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Then Satan is good guy in Genesis.
"Judge a moth by the beauty of its candle." - Rumi

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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2018, 06:45:53 PM »
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Then Satan is good guy in Genesis.

Correct.  As in the Gospel According to Judas, Judas was the best disciple.  In Gematria, the number of Serpent is the same as the number of Messiah.
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Re: Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2018, 11:51:27 PM »
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Satan gave man love. Was it worth the hate?

Adam thought so. He instantly and without argument or hesitation ate of that knowledge when Eve offered love to Adam.

Without Satan causing Original Sin, mankind could no know of love or hate as love and hate are subject to being good or evil.

Would you do as Adam did?

Was Satan right in opening our eyes to love and hate?

Should we venerate Satan more than Yahweh who tried to deny mankind love?

Regards
DL

1.  Can you provide any evidence of Adam and Eve and Eden to begin with?

2.  I recognize the existence of neither god nor devil.

3.  Out of curiosity, what evolutionary stage of hominoid development do you assign "Adam and Eve" to?  Ardipithocene, Australopithicine, various branches of homo habilis and homo erectus, archaic homo sapiens, etc?
Atheist born, atheist bred.  And when I die, atheist dead!

 

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